Is it normal and OK for a company to request a copy of a freelancer's identification? Thread poster: Cleo Patch
| Cleo Patch Saudi Arabia Local time: 09:33 English to Arabic + ...
I am a translator with 0 experience in working online so I don't know if it's ok for a company, to ask for a copy of my ID. Giving out a photocopy of my ID just seems too much (2 actually, one by mail and the other by email and to two different branches in two different continents). The rates they offer are lower than dirt but I need the experience. What are your thoughts on this? And if its ok any tips on how to recognize scammers that are only looking to steal personal information or to... See more I am a translator with 0 experience in working online so I don't know if it's ok for a company, to ask for a copy of my ID. Giving out a photocopy of my ID just seems too much (2 actually, one by mail and the other by email and to two different branches in two different continents). The rates they offer are lower than dirt but I need the experience. What are your thoughts on this? And if its ok any tips on how to recognize scammers that are only looking to steal personal information or to do something worse?
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[Edited at 2017-01-27 13:39 GMT] ▲ Collapse | | | Put yourself in their shoes | Jan 29, 2017 |
If you were about to hire someone online to complete a job for you, wouldn't you like to know who they were? Get as much experience as you can before you go full time. It took me 2-3 years, it takes others less, others more. | | | Some info for you | Jan 29, 2017 |
Cleo Patch wrote: I am a translator with 0 experience in working online so I don't know if it's ok for a company, to ask for a copy of my ID. Giving out a photocopy of my ID just seems too much (2 actually, one by mail and the other by email and to two different branches in two different continents). The rates they offer are lower than dirt but I need the experience. What are your thoughts on this? And if its ok any tips on how to recognize scammers that are only looking to steal personal information or to do something worse?
[Edited at 2017-01-27 06:02 GMT]
[Edited at 2017-01-27 13:39 GMT] Don't send out any copies of personal documents or photos. And don't work for rates that are ridiculous. You open yourself up to being scammed and/or exploited. It's better to do something else. Approach translating by way of online job sources very carefully and as a part-time activity at first. Don't rely on it. Here are three helpful links: http://wiki.proz.com/wiki/index.php/Determining_your_rates_and_fees_as_a_translator http://wiki.proz.com/wiki/index.php/Translator_career_path http://www.proz.com/forum/899
[Edited at 2017-01-29 17:13 GMT] PS: I recommend you expand your profile, specify subject fields and point out the skills and experience you have and add translation samples.
[Edited at 2017-01-29 17:21 GMT] | | | DZiW (X) Ukraine English to Russian + ... I agree with Bernhard | Jan 29, 2017 |
The worst thing you could do in the era of digitized abuse is to deliberately send your sensitive data so potential schemers (namely everybody, who are NOT your people or haven't shown their worthiness). Also check recommendations, including this free ebook Protect yourself • Think twice about what you say and do in an online environment Be careful sharing information about yourself online, including social media, blogs and other online forums. Stop and think before filling in surveys, entering competitions, clicking on links or attachments, or even ‘befriending’, ‘liking’ or ‘sharing’ something online. • Beware of any request for your details or money Scammers will try to trick you into handing over your data by using the names of well-known companies or government departments. If you think it’s a scam, don’t respond. Use the phone book or an online search to check the organisation’s contact details. Never use the contact details provided in the original request. One thing if it's about signing a contract at the office, the other thing is 'anonymous' who requires too much info and adds too much fuss even WITHOUT providing their ID's; is it really worthy? Assess and mitigate the risks, for modern fraudsters know how to pretend, gain your trust, and social-engineer! Take care | |
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Sheila Wilson Spain Local time: 07:33 Member (2007) English + ... No, it is not OK | Jan 29, 2017 |
It isn't uncommon but it's unnecessary and a downright invasion of privacy. You're offering your services as a professional, whereas your passport, ID card, driving licence etc are personal papers. I know it's difficult when starting out, and you have to make certain compromises, but you do need to draw the line somewhere. An agency that makes that sort of demand will also probably want stupidly low rates, unrealistic turnaround times, discounts for every conceivable TM match... and... See more It isn't uncommon but it's unnecessary and a downright invasion of privacy. You're offering your services as a professional, whereas your passport, ID card, driving licence etc are personal papers. I know it's difficult when starting out, and you have to make certain compromises, but you do need to draw the line somewhere. An agency that makes that sort of demand will also probably want stupidly low rates, unrealistic turnaround times, discounts for every conceivable TM match... and will probably unilaterally apply penalties for what they see as errors in your work. You don't need that type of client. ▲ Collapse | | | Cleo Patch Saudi Arabia Local time: 09:33 English to Arabic + ... TOPIC STARTER already did it | Jan 30, 2017 |
Thanks for the feedback everyone. By the time my post was approved I had already decided, after much debate, to go ahead and just submit the documents they asked for. They turned out not to be scammers, but after listening to what everyone had to say, this will probably be the last time I submit personal identifications to anyone. It's just too risky, especially now that I know that it's an unusual request too. | | | Set up a business identity | Feb 1, 2017 |
The precise details vary from one country to another, but if you are registered as a small business, this proves that you exist, and you are traceable, but you do not have to give personal details. It is also reasonable for clients to ask for professional credentials, but be careful with these, as they can also be abused. In much of the EU, small businesses are registered for VAT, and if they have a valid VAT number, then their business is traceable and identifiable. The Danis... See more The precise details vary from one country to another, but if you are registered as a small business, this proves that you exist, and you are traceable, but you do not have to give personal details. It is also reasonable for clients to ask for professional credentials, but be careful with these, as they can also be abused. In much of the EU, small businesses are registered for VAT, and if they have a valid VAT number, then their business is traceable and identifiable. The Danish companies register also tells you if a company is insolvent or has ceased trading, so you can avoid any who will not be able to pay you. Other countries have different systems, but see what applies where you live, and refer clients to that. ▲ Collapse | | | Naomi Long Local time: 07:33 Member (2014) French to English + ... Is there any form of non-invasive ID we can give as translators? | Mar 5, 2017 |
I've had to provide a passport scan for one client, which I was very unhappy about, but they have proven to be a very reliable and very professional customer since,. However, I've never had anybody else request this. Another client is currently asking for a certificate of tax residence, which is proving difficult to get at present because I don't know exactly why they need it. Most of my clients have been happy enough with my UTR... Is there any other form of ID anybody knows of which would be l... See more I've had to provide a passport scan for one client, which I was very unhappy about, but they have proven to be a very reliable and very professional customer since,. However, I've never had anybody else request this. Another client is currently asking for a certificate of tax residence, which is proving difficult to get at present because I don't know exactly why they need it. Most of my clients have been happy enough with my UTR... Is there any other form of ID anybody knows of which would be less invasive and dubious than sending a scan of your passport but which is an additional proof that you are who you say you are? ▲ Collapse | |
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Liviu-Lee Roth United States Local time: 02:33 Romanian to English + ... Beg to differ | Mar 5, 2017 |
Sheila Wilson wrote: It isn't uncommon but it's unnecessary and a downright invasion of privacy. You're offering your services as a professional, whereas your passport, ID card, driving licence etc are personal papers. I know it's difficult when starting out, and you have to make certain compromises, but you do need to draw the line somewhere. An agency that makes that sort of demand will also probably want stupidly low rates, unrealistic turnaround times, discounts for every conceivable TM match... and will probably unilaterally apply penalties for what they see as errors in your work. You don't need that type of client. There are LSP (agencies) that cater to governmental agencies (DOJ, DHS, FBI, CIA, IRS, USSS) and they require proof of who you are, including driving license, passport etc. It is nothing out of the ordinary and it is necessary. I provided and will provide my photo ID whenever I am asked, but before doing it I do a careful vetting/research of the asking agency. We must exercise due diligence before we accept anything. Lee. | | | S_G_C Romania Local time: 09:33 English to Romanian Copy of my ID | Mar 5, 2017 |
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