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秋续春色,叶叶如花
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价格相差不止一点点 Sep 1, 2014

David Lin wrote:

ysun wrote:

你说得不错,每年国外及美国本土都有很多人专程去新英格兰看秋天的美景。其实,我感觉 New Hampshire 的冬天不如北京冷。气温与北京差不多,但很少刮风。我在冬天连毛裤都不穿。有些年轻的学生,连大雪天也只穿一条短裤,同时却缩着脖子叫唤:”It’s freezing cold today!”

你何时来新英格兰欣赏秋景?你不但是旅行家,还是美食家,可别忘了吃缅因州的大龙虾哦!

How to See New England Fall Foliage at Its Peak
http://gonewengland.about.com/od/fallfoliage/ht/htpeakfoliage.htm



谢谢你的旅游链结,有关秋季叶景预测及缅恩洲等地的信息,内容非常丰富、充实。看了以后腿子都痒起来,蠢蠢欲动,很想立刻飞过去重游美地。一年一度的秋景需要预先安排行程并配合阳光天气,才会有美好收获。不如北美的同仁们搞个 ProZ.com 的 Powwow 聚会吧,我们一起去新英格兰玩玩,只要租部太空车就可以自由行、随处舒适游览。由麻省发出的汽车牌照,我还保存至今。多年不用,差点成为古董。不过北美这么大,可能在筹备方面须大费周章。

其实我不算什么“家”,只是较喜欢旅行和饮饮、食食,对于这方面多了一点点认识而已。个人觉的努力工作之余,需要有正当消遣娱乐,生活才有情趣,所谓 work hard, play hard。

lobster_Canada

昨天看到伦敦华人超市正在推销加拿大龙虾,好像蛮新鲜的,还在缸内游泳,可能是 Rita 或 Fargoer 养的


http://item.jd.com/1119129331.html

两相比较,发觉国内的物价早已将欧美的远远甩在了身后啊。

贸易好赚钱啊


 
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运费也是一大因素 Sep 2, 2014

要保证鲜活,必须空运且采取特殊保护措施。若在New England 当地买龙虾,那是很便宜的。

http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/07/24/new-englands-live-lobster-prices-set-to-fall-to-seasonal-lows-as-new-shell-product-hits-market/
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要保证鲜活,必须空运且采取特殊保护措施。若在New England 当地买龙虾,那是很便宜的。

http://www.undercurrentnews.com/2014/07/24/new-englands-live-lobster-prices-set-to-fall-to-seasonal-lows-as-new-shell-product-hits-market/



[Edited at 2014-09-02 22:55 GMT]
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瑞典小龙虾 Sep 5, 2014

说起国际贸易。

每年八月,瑞典著名宜家家居 IKEA 举行传统的 Crayfish Party 庆祝秋天来临,推广瑞典文化之余,同时推销其 crayfish 产品。 顾客只需付约 £6 多即可自助任吃小龙虾大餐。餐厅并赠送免费香槟、各式瑞典饮料、甜点。由于价钱便宜及瑞典式龙虾美味可口,通常一早客满,大人、小孩及家庭,非常有派对气氛,餐厅会挤得水泄不通。

最好笑是,�
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说起国际贸易。

每年八月,瑞典著名宜家家居 IKEA 举行传统的 Crayfish Party 庆祝秋天来临,推广瑞典文化之余,同时推销其 crayfish 产品。 顾客只需付约 £6 多即可自助任吃小龙虾大餐。餐厅并赠送免费香槟、各式瑞典饮料、甜点。由于价钱便宜及瑞典式龙虾美味可口,通常一早客满,大人、小孩及家庭,非常有派对气氛,餐厅会挤得水泄不通。

最好笑是,公司职员静悄悄跟我说,其实小龙虾在瑞典已被捕光,没办法繁殖足够供应其人民庆祝每年一度的立秋及 Crayfish 派对, 所以只好从中国 (加重语气)进口!

他还话未讲完,我们已相对大笑起来 (他知道我从那里来)。

http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/store/belfast/restaurant

如果有这样的出口,那么国内龙虾应该一定比海外的便宜吧。

crayfishparty

All you can eat - "Swedish" crayfish!

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小龙虾不敢吃 Sep 7, 2014

南京曾经有人吃了后得肌溶解症,据说是洗龙虾的粉有问题。

http://www.dfdaily.com/html/21/2010/9/8/516458.shtml

http://hb.qq.com/a/20100823/001744.htm



[Edited at 2014-09-07 12:28 GMT]

[Edited at 2014-09-07 12:31 GMT]


 
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That's serious business Sep 7, 2014

Rhabdomyolysis

Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of muscle fibers that leads to the release of muscle fiber contents (myoglobin) into the bloodstream. Myoglobin is harmful to the kidney and often causes kidney damage.


 
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Haff Disease Sep 7, 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haff_disease



Haff disease is the development of rhabdomyolysis (swelling and breakdown of skeletal muscle, with a risk of acute kidney failure) within 24 hours of ingesting fish.

History

It was first described in 1924 in the vicinity of Königsberg, Germany (now Kaliningrad, Russia) on the Baltic coast, in people staying around the haff (German: lagoon).[3]

Over the subsequent fifteen years, about 1000 cases were reported in people, birds and cats, usually in the summer and fall, and a link was made with the consumption of fish (burbot, eel and pike).[2] Since that time, only occasional reports have appeared of the condition, mostly from the Soviet Union and Germany.

In 1997, six cases of Haff disease were reported in California and Missouri, all after the consumption of buffalo fish (Ictiobus cyprinellus).

In July and August 2010, dozens of people contracted rhabdomyolysis after eating Procambarus clarkii in Nanjing, China. A month later, the Chinese authorities claimed they were victims of Haff disease.

An outbreak was reported in Brooklyn, NY on 18 November 2011, when two household members were stricken by the syndrome after eating buffalo fish. [6] On February 4, 2014 two cases of Haff Disease were reported in Cook County, Illinois following the consumption of buffalo fish.

Poison

The exact nature of the poison is still unclear. In the U.S. outbreak, the source of the fish was traced by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and studies of other fish from the same sources showed a hexane-soluble (and hence non-polar lipid) substance that induced similar symptoms in mice; other food-borne poisons commonly found in fish could not be detected.[2] It cannot be inactivated by cooking, as all six CDC cases had consumed cooked or fried fish.[2] Palytoxin has been proposed as a disease model.[8] It has also been suggested that the toxin may have thiaminase activity (i.e. it degrades thiamine, also known as vitamin B1).



 
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Crawdads, i.e. Crayfish Sep 7, 2014

From the previous wiki link ...



In July and August 2010, dozens of people contracted rhabdomyolysis after eating Procambarus clarkii in Nanjing, China. A month later, the Chinese authorities claimed they were victims of Haff disease.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procambarus_clarkii

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish


 
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海鲜美食 Sep 10, 2014

Zhoudan wrote:

南京曾经有人吃了后得肌溶解症,据说是洗龙虾的粉有问题。

http://www.dfdaily.com/html/21/2010/9/8/516458.shtml

http://hb.qq.com/a/20100823/001744.htm




Zhoudan,

看了这些消息后马上坏了胃口。应该与洗龙虾的 ”粉“ 无关,除非是用了有毒奶粉。

其实,这个 Haff 病连吃 Salmon 鱼也可能会得到 (见链结)。

从食物卫生安全及养生角度来看,基本上海鲜不能多吃,鱼类除外。海底爬行动物如虾、蟹、蚬,甚至黄、白鳝。因为他们的食粮都是水底各种动、植物,甚至沉淀废物、排泄物;或因海、河水受污染,其中可能带有有毒物质,沉积其体内,对它们没事,但是人类吃了就可能不幸中毒。

http://www.biomedsearch.com/nih/Haff-disease-after-eating-salmon/17984750.html

无论如何,海鲜美食,需要注意来源及烹调过程的安全性。遇上节日或亲朋聚会,我才偶然享用,高兴一番。偶一甞之,也不失为人生一乐事也!


 
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是否有兴趣翻译这句? Sep 22, 2014

luttyzhu wrote:

看到大家纯学术的讨论真是很开心,充分感受到了这里的学术氛围。
我本人很喜欢汉语的诗歌,但是英语的读的不多,很少有接触。
假如各位有喜欢的英文诗歌,希望能够提供给我试一试,谢谢~~

"Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present.”

― Alice Morse Earle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alice_Morse_Earle


 
Kenneth Woo
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獻醜 Sep 23, 2014

ysun wrote:

luttyzhu wrote:

看到大家纯学术的讨论真是很开心,充分感受到了这里的学术氛围。
我本人很喜欢汉语的诗歌,但是英语的读的不多,很少有接触。
假如各位有喜欢的英文诗歌,希望能够提供给我试一试,谢谢~~

"Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present.”

― Alice Morse Earle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Alice_Morse_Earle


試譯:昨日已矣,明朝不可知矣,可貴者唯今,此所以今者之謂「金」也。

附:意思還是大有出入。



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不错 Sep 23, 2014

Kenneth Woo wrote:

試譯:昨日已矣,明朝不可知矣,可貴者唯今,此所以今者之謂「金」也。

小吴:

你翻得不错。谢谢!我觉得这句话中最难翻的就是 present 的双关含义。你处理得很好。让我们看看其他同仁是否还有更好的建议。


 
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试译 Sep 24, 2014

ysun wrote:

Kenneth Woo wrote:

試譯:昨日已矣,明朝不可知矣,可貴者唯今,此所以今者之謂「金」也。

小吴:

你翻得不错。谢谢!我觉得这句话中最难翻的就是 present 的双关含义。你处理得很好。让我们看看其他同仁是否还有更好的建议。



"Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That's why it is called the present.”
昨日已逝,明日未知,所谓今日,如金之日。


 
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Fall is the best time in New England... Sep 24, 2014

And that's why we'll be flying back to Boston on October 15, right in time for the fall colors on Route 2 in MA (the Route 2 foliage drive routinely gets written up as being one of the best drives in the US).

Haven't been home for autumn in New England in 4 years, and so has been great seeing the poems, thoughts and pictures posted here--really puts me in the mood for fall in New England.

A few other great parts of fall/early winter in New England:

1. Hikin
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And that's why we'll be flying back to Boston on October 15, right in time for the fall colors on Route 2 in MA (the Route 2 foliage drive routinely gets written up as being one of the best drives in the US).

Haven't been home for autumn in New England in 4 years, and so has been great seeing the poems, thoughts and pictures posted here--really puts me in the mood for fall in New England.

A few other great parts of fall/early winter in New England:

1. Hiking! All time favorites for those looking for a long, strenuous climb include Mt. Katahdin in Maine at the end of September (great foliage, the best hike in New England IMHO); Mt. Adams in the NH Presidentials (less crowded than Mt. Washington, want to check the weather as the northern Presidentials get cold early); Mt. Hight in the Presidentials (better views than adjacent Carter Dome); Mt. Mansfield in Vermont. Shorter favorite hikes include Cadillac Mountain in Bar Harbor Maine (despite there being a parking lot at the top, the views are great); Mt. Chocura (a 'tweener in terms of difficulty), and for a bit later in fall, Mt. Monadnock in southern NH.

2. The harvest, especially corny but fun activities like apple picking, fairs, pumpkin carving, etc.

3. Thanksgiving. Get up early to go watch a high school football game (Massachusetts high schools play their biggest rivalry games on Thanksgiving morning), and then go home for the feast. BTW, it's interesting that so many people in China equate Christmas as being the closest US holiday to Spring Festival when to me Thanksgiving is closest (most everyone goes home for Thanksgiving, it is celebrated by nearly everyone, and lacks the religious meaning of Christmas).

4. Driving down the road in mid-December and seeing Christmas lights reflected against newly fallen snow.

5. Any time you see the white steeple of a New England church framed against blue sky (and there's always a bright red or yellow oak/maple next to these churches in the fall)
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A Bostonian! Sep 24, 2014

Hi Preston,

Thanks for your timely and additional and useful info. Great to know you're a Boston native! Some of us lived in NE before. (One or two even live there now.) Glad the photos and poems have tempted you. We certainly enjoyed ourselves when posting them.

I had done part of 1 and all of 2-5 when I lived there. A professor friend of mine lived in Vermont and owned a farm himself. Can't forget the scenic NE and Boston "fall" experience and love to relive it i
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Hi Preston,

Thanks for your timely and additional and useful info. Great to know you're a Boston native! Some of us lived in NE before. (One or two even live there now.) Glad the photos and poems have tempted you. We certainly enjoyed ourselves when posting them.

I had done part of 1 and all of 2-5 when I lived there. A professor friend of mine lived in Vermont and owned a farm himself. Can't forget the scenic NE and Boston "fall" experience and love to relive it in person when I'll have the opportunity in the future. And will use your info for No. 1.

Four years is definitely a long time. Hope you and your family will enjoy your not-too-distant furlough and return to China safely.

David

Preston Decker wrote:

And that's why we'll be flying back to Boston on October 15, right in time for the fall colors on Route 2 in MA (the Route 2 foliage drive routinely gets written up as being one of the best drives in the US).

Haven't been home for autumn in New England in 4 years, and so has been great seeing the poems, thoughts and pictures posted here--really puts me in the mood for fall in New England.

A few other great parts of fall/early winter in New England:

1. Hiking! All time favorites for those looking for a long, strenuous climb include Mt. Katahdin in Maine at the end of September (great foliage, the best hike in New England IMHO); Mt. Adams in the NH Presidentials (less crowded than Mt. Washington, want to check the weather as the northern Presidentials get cold early); Mt. Hight in the Presidentials (better views than adjacent Carter Dome); Mt. Mansfield in Vermont. Shorter favorite hikes include Cadillac Mountain in Bar Harbor Maine (despite there being a parking lot at the top, the views are great); Mt. Chocura (a 'tweener in terms of difficulty), and for a bit later in fall, Mt. Monadnock in southern NH.

2. The harvest, especially corny but fun activities like apple picking, fairs, pumpkin carving, etc.

3. Thanksgiving. Get up early to go watch a high school football game (Massachusetts high schools play their biggest rivalry games on Thanksgiving morning), and then go home for the feast. BTW, it's interesting that so many people in China equate Christmas as being the closest US holiday to Spring Festival when to me Thanksgiving is closest (most everyone goes home for Thanksgiving, it is celebrated by nearly everyone, and lacks the religious meaning of Christmas).

4. Driving down the road in mid-December and seeing Christmas lights reflected against newly fallen snow.

5. Any time you see the white steeple of a New England church framed against blue sky (and there's always a bright red or yellow oak/maple next to these churches in the fall)
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If you've done all those things you're basically a Bostonian too! Sep 24, 2014

David Lin wrote:

Hi Preston,

Thanks for your timely and additional and useful info. Great to know you're a Boston native! Some of us lived in NE before. (One or two even live there now.) Glad the photos and poems have tempted you. We certainly enjoyed ourselves when posting them.

I had done part of 1 and all of 2-5 when I lived there. A professor friend of mine lived in Vermont and owned a farm himself. Can't forget the scenic NE and Boston "fall" experience and love to relive it in person when I'll have the opportunity in the future. And will use your info for No. 1.

Four years is definitely a long time. Hope you and your family will enjoy your not-too-distant furlough and return to China safely.

David

Preston Decker wrote:

And that's why we'll be flying back to Boston on October 15, right in time for the fall colors on Route 2 in MA (the Route 2 foliage drive routinely gets written up as being one of the best drives in the US).

Haven't been home for autumn in New England in 4 years, and so has been great seeing the poems, thoughts and pictures posted here--really puts me in the mood for fall in New England.

A few other great parts of fall/early winter in New England:

1. Hiking! All time favorites for those looking for a long, strenuous climb include Mt. Katahdin in Maine at the end of September (great foliage, the best hike in New England IMHO); Mt. Adams in the NH Presidentials (less crowded than Mt. Washington, want to check the weather as the northern Presidentials get cold early); Mt. Hight in the Presidentials (better views than adjacent Carter Dome); Mt. Mansfield in Vermont. Shorter favorite hikes include Cadillac Mountain in Bar Harbor Maine (despite there being a parking lot at the top, the views are great); Mt. Chocura (a 'tweener in terms of difficulty), and for a bit later in fall, Mt. Monadnock in southern NH.

2. The harvest, especially corny but fun activities like apple picking, fairs, pumpkin carving, etc.

3. Thanksgiving. Get up early to go watch a high school football game (Massachusetts high schools play their biggest rivalry games on Thanksgiving morning), and then go home for the feast. BTW, it's interesting that so many people in China equate Christmas as being the closest US holiday to Spring Festival when to me Thanksgiving is closest (most everyone goes home for Thanksgiving, it is celebrated by nearly everyone, and lacks the religious meaning of Christmas).

4. Driving down the road in mid-December and seeing Christmas lights reflected against newly fallen snow.

5. Any time you see the white steeple of a New England church framed against blue sky (and there's always a bright red or yellow oak/maple next to these churches in the fall)


Thanks David, will do! And if anyone is in the Boston area this fall PM me, would love to get together.


 
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