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Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

Onorevole

English translation:

honourable

Added to glossary by Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
Mar 31, 2008 20:26
16 yrs ago
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Italian term

Onorevole

Italian to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
Onorevole Mariotti, for example, in spoken language. The title often given in Italian for politicians and statesmen. Is there an actual translation for this title? I've simply left it out of the translation for now, but it seems as if it's missing something. Honorable plus surname just doesn't sound like proper English...or is it?
Proposed translations (English)
4 +3 honourable
3 +3 the Right Honourable
3 Mr xxx Member of Parliament
3 Mr.
Change log

Apr 5, 2008 16:53: Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A. Created KOG entry

Discussion

Paul O'Brien Mar 31, 2008:
if you want to say "buon giorno onorevole" speaking to gordon brown, you say "good morning mr brown" or "good morning prime minister". if the name has to remain secret (and goodness knows why), then good morning sir o madam should suffice.

Proposed translations

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honourable

Right, the title is often given in Italian for politicians and statesmen.
Even "onorevole" can be understood, because the Italian State Rules have been made famous by "Don Camillo and Peppone" by Giovanni Guareschi (1908-1968).

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Note added at 53 mins (2008-03-31 21:20:41 GMT)
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In my opinion you can say "Buon giorno, onorevole", "Good morning, Honourable" as well as "Goog morning, sir".
Insomma, se esistono gli anglicismi fa bene anche un po' di colore nostrano! "Mamma mia"!!!
Example sentence:

Onorevole deputato – on. (Honourable Member of the Chamber of Deputies)

Note from asker:
But what if you have to say, "buon giorno, Onorevole"...you cannot say "Good morning, Honourable". And in this case his name must be kept secret so the title is fundamental...
Peer comment(s):
agree James (Jim) Davis : This: "Good morning, Honourable" has no meaning in English.
7 hrs
agree Joanna M Cas (X) : agree entirely with Jim. Good morning Prime Minister or Minister (eg for the Min of Defence) is appropriate. if your chap is simply an MP it would be Mr surname I belive. If the title comes from another source then Mr., and contextualise if nec.
11 hrs
agree Desiree Bonfiglio
11 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Ok...this is what I'll do then!"
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3 mins

the Right Honourable

Many hits in Google.
Peer comment(s):
agree Rachel Fell : though I'd say only if it's someone who's served hiigh office http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_Honourable
1 hr
agree Gina Ferlisi
2 hrs
agree James (Jim) Davis : http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=desk...
8 hrs
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2 hrs

Mr xxx Member of Parliament

Mr xxx Member of Parliament

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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-03-31 22:32:57 GMT)
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Pauley has answered for me, obviously if you have to write it you would put MP
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1 hr

Mr.

I think this is all that'd be used unless it's someone who's been in the cabinet, etc.

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www.oxfordmail.net/search/display.var.1446705.0.boris_i_too... -

or Miss/Mrs./Ms for women

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Note added at 10 hrs (2008-04-01 07:03:10 GMT) Post-grading
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equally if addressing the person directly
Note from asker:
Rachel, I totally agree with you, but went with the answer "Honorable XXX" and "Good Morning sir" because it fit best in a text where using a title was of imperative importance for the client. The other idea was to use president (Pres. of the Council of Ministers), but this is why I came to proz. Mr. President in a dialogue (that also makes reference to the Pres of the US) could only make the audience believe that the other was the Pres of Italy! Which was obviously wrong...Thank you for your time in answering!
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