Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
terminus repos
English translation:
static terminus; mobile terminus
Added to glossary by
Carol Gullidge
Nov 28, 2008 19:08
15 yrs ago
French term
terminus repos
French to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
sociology of mobility/transport
La mobilité urbaine où les « lieux [ne sont que des]****** terminus repos ******de cette mobilité » se présente donc sous la forme d’une « mobilité intermédiaire » entre la « mobilité globalisée des ubiquitaires » et « l’immobilité des relégués ».
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Par ailleurs, pour les péri-urbanisés, elle n’est plus le moyen ou l’outil nécessaire pour parcourir les flux contraignants de la mobilité urbaine dans l’attente de rentrer au****** « terminus repos ******de cette mobilité. »
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This doesn't even appear in Google in FRENCH, let alone in English, so I suspect it's a made-up expression. However, I don't even know how to interpret "terminus". Is it the destination, or a resting-place - a halfway house?
I'd be very grateful for any helpful ideas - many thanks!
AND AGAIN
Par ailleurs, pour les péri-urbanisés, elle n’est plus le moyen ou l’outil nécessaire pour parcourir les flux contraignants de la mobilité urbaine dans l’attente de rentrer au****** « terminus repos ******de cette mobilité. »
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This doesn't even appear in Google in FRENCH, let alone in English, so I suspect it's a made-up expression. However, I don't even know how to interpret "terminus". Is it the destination, or a resting-place - a halfway house?
I'd be very grateful for any helpful ideas - many thanks!
Proposed translations
(English)
4 | stopping places | Kate Deimling |
4 +1 | stopovers | nadag |
3 +1 | temporary stops | Karen Vincent-Jones (X) |
4 | last-stop resting places | Diane de Cicco |
3 | rest stops | Melissa McMahon |
Proposed translations
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stopping places
"Terminus" should be the last stop, but the use of "repos" and the context would indicate that these are not really last stops, but stopping places of a mobile population.
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Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2008-11-30 01:32:59 GMT)
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I think "repos" means a pause -- the phrase itself is an oxymoron as far as I can tell. The last stop turns out to really be just a pause before the subject moves on yet again.
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Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2008-11-30 01:32:59 GMT)
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I think "repos" means a pause -- the phrase itself is an oxymoron as far as I can tell. The last stop turns out to really be just a pause before the subject moves on yet again.
Note from asker:
many thanks kdeimling! I too think that the terminus HAS to be the end of the line, and am therefore confused about "repos" = Final resting place ?? :O) I'm still rather bemused... |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "thanks everybody! This was another really hard one - first of all to fathom out what is meant, let alone finding a translation for it. In the end, this (the later explanation) comes closest to my understanding of the term, but I used the term "static terminus". It was important in the end to retain "terminus"..."
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temporary stops
I think the idea here is that these are temporary stops or intermediate resting places in the constant flow of mobility, rather than final destinations.
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Note added at 15 mins (2008-11-28 19:23:33 GMT)
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I've just thought of another possibility: 'intermediate resting places'
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Note added at 15 mins (2008-11-28 19:23:33 GMT)
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I've just thought of another possibility: 'intermediate resting places'
Note from asker:
thanks again Karen! I'm still assuming that a terminus HAS to be the end of the line, whereas you're all agreed that this is a temporary affair. I guess I'll have to think again... |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Aude Sylvain
: yes, '(intermediate) resting places' conveys the right meaning i think
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Thank you, Aude
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stopovers
I would just call them stopovers .It echoes something like a "pied à terre", something that's yours for a transient time
Note from asker:
many thanks nadag! You all seem to be agreed on this |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
: Yes, I think this is good.
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last-stop resting places
I think you need "last stop" to render "terminus"
Note from asker:
many thanks Diane! I'm resisting the temptation to say "final resting places"! But I still feel that terminus implies an idea of finality |
5 hrs
rest stops
Just another phrasing along the same line.
I think a terminus has to be the end of some sort of line, but it doesn't have to be the irreversible end of every line - like a terminal illness - and the sense does seem clear here from the context: rather than a situation where our basic state is to belong to a place and movement is abnormal, our basic state is to be mobile and "places are just rest stops" in that general state (or rather, following the text, this balance between movement and rest is a state of "intermediate mobility").
So if that total mobile state is an unbroken line, and immobile state a point, this state is like a line with breaks in it or a set of shorter lines, so the rest stop is still the end of a line like a terminus. That's how I rationalise the apparent contradicton anyway!
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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-11-29 00:40:43 GMT)
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Nb.1: If you think of the home as the model of the "place" that for some is the basic situation and could here be conceived as a "rest stop", then the terminus idea is even more plausible, because the line is like a series of loops leaving and returning to the house rather than a road broken up by different rest stops (though it's still the latter in an abstract way) - just like a bus can leave and return to a terminus....
Nb.2 "terminus repos de cette mobilité" is a quote: do you know the source? If it's a well-known author it might already be translated.
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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2008-11-30 08:28:20 GMT)
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Thanks Carol, well, it could be that the author is just using quotation marks to highlight a neologism, but your first example suggests a longish quote which would suggest a citation... FR authors are appalling at footnoting :(
Nb.3 I've been alerted to the fact that "rest stop" could suggest "toilet break", which is obviously not the right idea at all...
I think a terminus has to be the end of some sort of line, but it doesn't have to be the irreversible end of every line - like a terminal illness - and the sense does seem clear here from the context: rather than a situation where our basic state is to belong to a place and movement is abnormal, our basic state is to be mobile and "places are just rest stops" in that general state (or rather, following the text, this balance between movement and rest is a state of "intermediate mobility").
So if that total mobile state is an unbroken line, and immobile state a point, this state is like a line with breaks in it or a set of shorter lines, so the rest stop is still the end of a line like a terminus. That's how I rationalise the apparent contradicton anyway!
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Note added at 5 hrs (2008-11-29 00:40:43 GMT)
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Nb.1: If you think of the home as the model of the "place" that for some is the basic situation and could here be conceived as a "rest stop", then the terminus idea is even more plausible, because the line is like a series of loops leaving and returning to the house rather than a road broken up by different rest stops (though it's still the latter in an abstract way) - just like a bus can leave and return to a terminus....
Nb.2 "terminus repos de cette mobilité" is a quote: do you know the source? If it's a well-known author it might already be translated.
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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2008-11-30 08:28:20 GMT)
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Thanks Carol, well, it could be that the author is just using quotation marks to highlight a neologism, but your first example suggests a longish quote which would suggest a citation... FR authors are appalling at footnoting :(
Nb.3 I've been alerted to the fact that "rest stop" could suggest "toilet break", which is obviously not the right idea at all...
Note from asker:
many thanks for all the help - much food for thought! I hadn't realised that the term was a quote, simply because it doesn't appear in Google. I assumed the quotation marks surrounding it could simply imply that this is an invented term. But, knowing what they mean by it would go a long way towards finding a decent equivalent in EN... |
sorry: "many thanks Melissa..."! |
Discussion
here again, the "elle" in the 2nd part refers to the motor car.