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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

dependiente (in this context)

English translation:

dependent

Added to glossary by liz askew
Feb 14, 2009 19:53
15 yrs ago
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Spanish term

dependiente (in this context)

Spanish to English Marketing Psychology Personality types
"Dependent" is not the opposite of "independent" - at least not here. To use "dependent" in this case would be disparaging, and the whole idea is to be respectful of each personality style.

I thought of "subdued," but that is not quite what's meant. HELP!

¿Cómo venderle a un médico de Estilo Social y de Comunicación ANALÍTICO?
Cuando se comunique con una persona **dependiente**, conservadora, perfeccionista, cuidadosa:
Proposed translations (English)
5 +1 dependent
4 reliant/subordinate/submissive/subservient
Change log

Feb 18, 2009 19:25: liz askew Created KOG entry

Discussion

Rosa Paredes Feb 15, 2009:
"dependable"? I agree 100% with Alex. Better talk to client.
franglish Feb 14, 2009:
agree with Alex I believe what is meant is dependable, reliable, for the reasons mentioned by Alex
Robin Kongialis Feb 14, 2009:
Positive tone... I guess the question you have to ask is if the word "dependiente" can be interpreted in a positive light in Spanish. If it can, try and find a positive-sounding translation. If not, then a negative-sounding translation is true to the original text and appropriate.
Muriel Vasconcellos (asker) Feb 14, 2009:
More traits Here are some traits of the ANALYTICAL listed at http://www.hearingreview.com/issues/articles/2007-11_05.asp:
Negative traits: critical, indecisive, stuffy, picky, moralistic. Positive traits: industrious, persistent, serious, exacting, orderly. Interestingly, this website lists "dependent" as a negative trait for another personalitiy type. MY document is very positive in tone!
Muriel Vasconcellos (asker) Feb 14, 2009:
Thanks for your comments Even if "dependent" weren't a mistake, I don't think we would want to use this word in describing a personality trait. Can you think of something better?
Robin Kongialis Feb 14, 2009:
Maybe not In a medical context I would agree with you, Alex, but this refers to a personality trait. Someone who depends on others to get by successfully in a social context. I don't think that being conservative, a perfectionist or cautious are necessarily incompatible with this.
Alex Lago Feb 14, 2009:
Wrong word in original text At least in Spain a "persona dependiente" is a person who needs some kind of help or care to get by, from minor help to extensive care, it could be an elderly person needing assistance at home, or some one with a disability, or with a degenerative illness or even in a deep coma. So I think there must be a mistake in the original text as that kind of person does not match with "conservadora, perfeccionista, cuidadosa". If they wanted to say something like "dependable" the word should have been "formal/fiable/cumplidora" which in fact would match the idea of "conservadora, perfeccionista, cuidadosa", maybe the original should be changed and you could mention it to the client?

Proposed translations

+1
18 hrs
Selected

dependent

h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Obligarlos a que respondan rápidamente a sus objetivos.

4. Al comunicarse con una persona que es dependiente, nítida, conservadora, perfeccionista, cuidadosa y complaciente:
h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Prepare su "caso" de antemano.
h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Apéguese al asunto.
h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Sea exacto y realista.
Factores que crearán tensión o descontentos:
h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Ser frívolo, casual, informal, ruidoso.
h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Ser desorganizado.
h_chick1.gif (906 bytes) Presionar demasiado fuerte o ser poco realista con las fechas topes.

# [PDF]
TTI Success Insights
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dependent, neat, conservative, perfectionist, careful. and compliant:. Prepare your "case" in advance. Stick to business. Be accurate and realistic. ...
ttied.com/images/7/7d/SI_Management_Staff_Sample.pdf - Similar pages
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MANAGING FOR SUCCESS®
When communicating with a person who is dependent, neat, conservative, perfectionist, careful and compliant:. Prepare your "case" in advance. ...
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TTI SUCCESS INSIGHTS™
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When selling to a person who is dependent, neat,. conservative, perfectionist, careful and compliant:. Prepare your "presentation" in advance. ...
www.mcla.co.uk/pdfs/DISC/SI_Sales_Sample.pdf - Similar pages


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Note added at 18 hrs (2009-02-15 14:13:22 GMT)
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"Dependent" is a personality-type and is not disparaging at all, but a human characteristic.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2009-02-15 17:41:08 GMT)
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Hi

Maybe you are dealing with a back translation.

Perhaps you need the original text too.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2009-02-15 17:43:14 GMT)
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BUT

loads of Spanish references to "dependiente" as a personality type:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=personalidades dependiente ...

From a medical terminology point of view there is nothing degrading about "dependent".

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Note added at 3 days23 hrs (2009-02-18 19:27:10 GMT) Post-grading
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p.s

I don't see "dependency" as a bad thing in any case!

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Note added at 3 days23 hrs (2009-02-18 19:36:20 GMT) Post-grading
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I depend/am dependent on my husband for quite a few things yet I see myself as a very independent person!

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Note added at 4 days (2009-02-19 08:25:47 GMT) Post-grading
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"Co-dependency" is something else entirely, which opens up a new debate :-)
Note from asker:
In California, "codependency" has an awful stigma. I asked some psychologists and social workers in my personality study group, and they are not familiar with the term.
Peer comment(s):
agree Robin Kongialis
3 hrs
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2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: " I went with "dependent" in the end, but it reeks so strongly of "co-dependent" that I think it would rarely be used in the US. "
47 mins

reliant/subordinate/submissive/subservient

One of these, perhaps?
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