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siendo propia y a la vez ajena

English translation: to end a life that at once is and is not one's own.

16:46 Feb 18, 2011
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology / Film review
Spanish term or phrase: siendo propia y a la vez ajena
El tema es eutanasia y mucho les agradecería que me ayuden con esta frase. No es problema de comprensión, simplemente no encuentro cómo decirlo y que guste. Muchas muchas gracias.

'Finalmente, el film más conmovedor y profundo sobre la decisión de poner fin a una vida, que termina siendo propia y a la vez ajena.'
Eileen Banks
Argentina
Local time: 15:41
English translation:to end a life that at once is and is not one's own.
Explanation:
O "both" en vez de "at once."

Muy quisquilloso es este texto para traducir en ingles, pero creo que esta es una solucion concisa y fiel.

Por cierto, falta un verbo en la ultima oracion.

Suerte.
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Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 14:41
Grading comment
Thank you :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4to end a life that at once is and is not one's own.
Robert Forstag
3which while it was both his/her own also belonged to others.
Noem_Sport
3(turns out ) to be not only one's decision but others'
Teresita Fierro Espasandín
2a decision, both personal and shared/collective,
Aradai Pardo Martínez


Discussion entries: 9





  

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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
a decision, both personal and shared/collective,


Explanation:
No me suena del todo bien, por eso pongo un nivel de confianza tan bajo, pero quizás te puede dar una idea de por dónde seguir...

Saludos

Aradai Pardo Martínez
Mexico
Local time: 12:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Gracias, entiendo que es confuso pero se trata de poner fin a la vida, que es a la vez propia y ajena.

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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
de poner fin a una vida, que termina siendo propia y a la vez ajena.'
to end a life that at once is and is not one's own.


Explanation:
O "both" en vez de "at once."

Muy quisquilloso es este texto para traducir en ingles, pero creo que esta es una solucion concisa y fiel.

Por cierto, falta un verbo en la ultima oracion.

Suerte.

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 14:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 120
Grading comment
Thank you :)
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Robert ,it is very close to what I'm looking for :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charles Davis: This is deft, Robert: my compliments to you. Might I suggest adding "in the end" or "ultimately", for example, to reflect "termina siendo"? Perhaps one can get away with omitting it.
34 mins
  -> Thank you, Charles. I think that either "in the end" or "ultimately" could be used in place of "at once", although I also believe that the semantic weight of "termina" is not particularly strong, and is carried by "at once." :)
agree  Claudia Luque Bedregal: Nice! :)
39 mins
  -> Thank you, Claudia. Saludos!
agree  Phoebe Anne
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Phoebe.
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos: Very lovely!
5 hrs
  -> Thank you, Muriel. :)
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50 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
which while it was both his/her own also belonged to others.


Explanation:
...the decision to put an end to a life, which while it was both his/her own also belonged to others.

not the most eloquent thing I have ever come up with, but I tried!

Noem_Sport
Local time: 12:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
Notes to answerer
Asker: Definitely not easy to translate and I thank you for your suggestion :)

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(turns out ) to be not only one's decision but others'


Explanation:
Un aporte.Suerte!

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Note added at 3 horas (2011-02-18 20:37:41 GMT)
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"...about the ultimate definition respecting life turns out to be not only one's own decision, but that of others as well",

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Note added at 3 horas (2011-02-18 20:40:08 GMT)
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"...about the ultimate definition respecting life turns out to be not only one's own decision, but that of others as well",

Teresita Fierro Espasandín
Uruguay
Local time: 15:41
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Robert Forstag: A decent idea, but it would have to be: ....//Think about how you would translate "una vida." I think it would have to be translated as "suicide" if you offer something along the lines of your suggestion. This is what I meant. :D
44 mins
  -> Robert, I very much like your comments on the sentences and I totally agree, but what do you mean in the last part of what you wrote?
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