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French translation: Juge pour la cité de Londres et pour ses Libertés

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English term or phrase:Her Majesty's Justice in and for the said City and Liberties thereof
French translation:Juge pour la cité de Londres et pour ses Libertés
Entered by: Yvonne Gallagher

11:51 Oct 5, 2011
English to French translations [PRO]
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English term or phrase: Her Majesty's Justice in and for the said City and Liberties thereof
Formule longue décrivant un juge d'un tribunal londonien.
Je recherche la structure usuelle bloquant sur le lien avec "and liberties thereof".

Merci pour vos suggestions.
Alice CORDEBARD - DUCHET
France
Local time: 13:35
Un Juge pour la cité de Londres et pour ses Libertés
Explanation:
a suggestion

the Liberties were the parts of the city that sprang up outside the walls so this is the inner or original city and all additional parts

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Liberties_of_London -

Pages in category "Liberties of London". The following 15 pages are in this category, out of 15 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more). ...

The London Liberties
instruct.uwo.ca/english/234e/site/bckgrnds/maps/lndnmplbrts.html
25 Apr 2002 – Restoration & 18th-Century Studies in English at Western. UC Western Tower. London ca. 1676. The London Liberties ...


History of the Mayoralty - City of London

www.cityoflondon.gov.uk › ... › Mansion House
15 Jun 2011 – The first recorded Mayor of London was Henry Fitz-Ailwyn 1189. ... the City would retain all its ancient liberties: "That the City of London shall ...



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instruct.uwo.ca/english/234e/site/bckgrnds/maps/lndnmplbrts.html -
Although the city walls provided a more "concrete" symbol of the bounds of the City, the reach of the Guildhall — and the Lord Mayor and Aldermen of London — extended beyond the walls, to the limits of the city "Liberties" that represented the political and legal limits of the power of city goverment. The bounds of the "Liberties" were, roughly, the Tower of London to the east, and the Temple Bar, on Fleet Street, to the west. Beyond these Liberties was Westminster, and the suburbs that would, in fact, soon be swallowed up by the prodigious growth of the city during the next century.

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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 12:35
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4 +2Un Juge pour la cité de Londres et pour ses Libertés
Yvonne Gallagher
3 -1Juge de Sa Majesté pour la cité de Londres et la défense de ses libertés
Alain Mouchel


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
her majesty's justice in and for the said city and liberties thereof
Un Juge pour la cité de Londres et pour ses Libertés


Explanation:
a suggestion

the Liberties were the parts of the city that sprang up outside the walls so this is the inner or original city and all additional parts

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Liberties_of_London -

Pages in category "Liberties of London". The following 15 pages are in this category, out of 15 total. This list may not reflect recent changes (learn more). ...

The London Liberties
instruct.uwo.ca/english/234e/site/bckgrnds/maps/lndnmplbrts.html
25 Apr 2002 – Restoration & 18th-Century Studies in English at Western. UC Western Tower. London ca. 1676. The London Liberties ...


History of the Mayoralty - City of London

www.cityoflondon.gov.uk › ... › Mansion House
15 Jun 2011 – The first recorded Mayor of London was Henry Fitz-Ailwyn 1189. ... the City would retain all its ancient liberties: "That the City of London shall ...



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Note added at 2 hrs (2011-10-05 14:09:44 GMT)
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try this link again with excerpt from it

instruct.uwo.ca/english/234e/site/bckgrnds/maps/lndnmplbrts.html -
Although the city walls provided a more "concrete" symbol of the bounds of the City, the reach of the Guildhall — and the Lord Mayor and Aldermen of London — extended beyond the walls, to the limits of the city "Liberties" that represented the political and legal limits of the power of city goverment. The bounds of the "Liberties" were, roughly, the Tower of London to the east, and the Temple Bar, on Fleet Street, to the west. Beyond these Liberties was Westminster, and the suburbs that would, in fact, soon be swallowed up by the prodigious growth of the city during the next century.



Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 12:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: yes, this nails it in my opinion
4 hrs
  -> AT thank you!

agree  Tony M: Like Paris intra- and extra-muros! (though not 'un', I don't think)
4 hrs
  -> thanks Tony, yes, wasn't sure about the "un" myself. We have Liberties in Dublin as well, same concept, were outside the walls and free of city tax
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
her majesty's justice in and for the said city and liberties thereof
Juge de Sa Majesté pour la cité de Londres et la défense de ses libertés


Explanation:
Juge de Sa Majesté pour la cité de Londres et la défense de ses libertés

Alain Mouchel
Local time: 13:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 191

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: non, rien à voir avec défense des libertés; les libertés sont certains environs rattachés a la cité propre
3 hrs
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