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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

su alteración no implica

English translation:

values outside this range do not indicate

Added to glossary by James A. Walsh
Nov 29, 2012 10:41
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term

su alteración no implica

Spanish to English Medical Medical (general) Male Fertility Study
Morning all,

This is from a male fertility study conducted in Spain. The particular extract is from the “Analysis phase” of the study, once the semen sample has been obtained for testing, and the parameters and reference values to be used are defined. I’d greatly appreciate your thoughts on what to do with “su alteración no implica” here, because I’m not sure I even get it...

Here’s the context:

“Fase analítica
Analizar dentro de los 45-60 minutos posteriors a la obtención de la muestra.

- Parámetros y valores de referencia correspondientes a varones fértiles.
- No son valores de normalidad y su alteración no implica conceptos de fertilidad ni de esterilidad.”

Going into US English. Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +2 values outside this range to not indicate
3 +1 their variation does not imply/entail
4 changes from normal do not indicate/mean
3 +1 this lack of normality has no bearing on / is irrelevant for
4 These are not normality values, so anything different does not suggest fertility or sterility
3 and any changes (in such readings/levels...)

Discussion

James A. Walsh (asker) Nov 29, 2012:
@Phil et al. You know, I think the high/low thing is working best for me after looking at all this info. Based on the clarity of Liz’s excellent reference (thanks again!), my current draft is:

“No son valores de normalidad y su alteración no implica conceptos de fertilidad ni de esterilidad.”

“These are not the “normal” values, i.e., higher or lower values do not indicate fertility or infertility.”

I suggest you enter it as an answer, Phil.

Cheers folks :)
James A. Walsh (asker) Nov 29, 2012:
Thanks for your help everyone! That document you sent a link to is very helpful, Liz, so much clearer. I'm only getting a chance to look at this again now, as I have tonnes more like the above to get through... I'll get back to you all in a while :)
liz askew Nov 29, 2012:
sorry, I meant 4 and 5.
I don't think the original Spanish that clear so perhaps this site will help clarify.
liz askew Nov 29, 2012:
Hi, see pages 5 and 6

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:EIJw75hlMpkJ:nuev...
ormiston Nov 29, 2012:
doesn't 'alteracion' imply some sort of (intrinsic?) change/evolution rather than merely diverging
philgoddard Nov 29, 2012:
What about "high or low values" for alteración"?

Proposed translations

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values outside this range to not indicate

These limits are determined by the 2.5th lower and upper percentile, so values outside this range do not necessarily indicate disease.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombocytopenia

The former "valores de referencia" are probably the optimal values as opposed to "normal" values.

However, usual and optimal levels may differ substantially, most notably among vitamins and blood lipids, so these tables give limits on both standard and optimal (or target) ranges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_ranges_for_blood_test...

What is measured in a semen analysis?
A number of things are measured in a semen analysis - some that describe the sperm cells, some that describe other cells in the sample and some that describe the fluid fraction of semen. The range of values used to define “normal” may vary from lab to lab, so it is important to note which tests a lab uses. We use the standards set forth by the World Health Organization (WHO), third edition. The following are the major properties of semen that are measured.
[...]
http://fertility.obgyn.med.umich.edu/sites/fertility.obgyn.m...

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Note added at 14 hrs (2012-11-30 00:47:44 GMT)
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WHO laboratory manual for the Examination and processing of human semen

APPENDIX 1 Reference values and semen nomenclature
Comment 3: Semen characteristics are highly variable, both within and among men, and are not the sole determinants of a couple’s fertility; the ranges therefore provide only a guide to a man’s fertility status
[...]
Comment 5: Men whose semen characteristics fall below the lower limits given here are not necessarily infertile; their semen characteristics are below the reference range for recent fathers—as are, by defi nition, those of 5% of the fertile men who provided data used in the calculation of the reference range.

http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/44261/1/97892415477...
Note from asker:
Good stuff, thanks for this, Rich. I reckon this is the best way of putting it. Cheers ;-)
Peer comment(s):
agree Cinnamon Nolan
3 hrs
Thanks, Cinnamon :)
agree Alejandro Alcaraz Sintes : Bien expresado. Respuesta bien elegida.
17 hrs
Thanks, Alejandro :)
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7 mins

their variation does not imply/entail

another suggestion
Peer comment(s):
agree Manuel Locria : I'd use your option :)
47 mins
thanks!
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10 mins

and any changes (in such readings/levels...)

I.e. variations. Not sure if deliberately altered
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5 mins

changes from normal do not indicate/mean

A more literal translation would be:
...and their alteration/altering them does not represent....

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Note added at 12 mins (2012-11-29 10:54:13 GMT)
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Sorry, the words "from normal" should have been omitted from my primary answer.

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this lack of normality has no bearing on / is irrelevant for

Yo no traduciría la palabra "conceptos" al inglés.

Creo que es lo dice el original, que la "anormalidad" de las cifras no tienen nada que ver con la fertilidad o esterilidad del hombre, que dichas cifras no nos deben llevar a sacar conclusiones sobre, no significan / son significativas de nada sobre...
Lo que sigue es lo que he buscado para confirmar esta lectura y mi propuesta de traducción, que viene a decir lo mismo que las propuestas de Magdalena y Cinnamon.

La acepción 2 de "implicar" en el RAE: "Contener, llevar en sí, significar."
No encuentro ejemplos con "significar", "ser significativo de", pero los siguientes, con "indicativo" creo quieren decir lo mismo que el verbo "implicar" en texto:
version ISSN 0301-732X - SciELO
www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid...lng...de P OTERO - Citado por 6 - Artículos relacionados
Sin embargo, estos valores no son indicativos de alteraciones del equilibrio ácido, base según nomograma, ya publicado por Clarenburg en 1992. Esto ...

Foro Santo Tomás Moro - El googleometro - Foro Sto.Tomás Moro
aspa.mforos.com/390873/7263892-el-googleometro/
2 entradas - 2 autores - 6 Feb 2008
#2 · Publicado por Javier_L, el 6 de Febrero de 2008 a las 15:17. Es interesante, aunque estimo que estos valores no son indicativos de nada.

[PDF]
01 FIN letra mas grande - Fertilab
www.fertilab.net/descargables/.../Fertilab_12_Factor_mascul... de archivo: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Vista rápida
estudio, aunque se puede hacer en cualquier momen- to. Valores por debajo de los mostrados en la tabla 12-. 3 son indicativos de infertilidad. Tabla 12-3.

Mi propuesta en inglés sería "bearing on / relevance for/as regards".

El diccionario preinstalado en mi mac dice, s.v. "bearing", nombre, acepción 2: "relation or relevance : the case has no direct bearing on the issues."

Un ejemplo de Google:
need help with ov - iVillage UK Community
forums.ivillage.co.uk › ... › General Discussions - Traducir esta página
This is nothing to worry about and will have no bearing on fertility at all! I think it is like...in the same way we look different on the outside we are different on the ...

Unexplained Infertility : Treatment & Options
www.drmalpani.com/unexplained... - Estados Unidos - Traducir esta página
In some cases, the patient cannot conceive even when all the infertility diagnostic ... of minor irrelevant problems, which have no bearing on the fertility problem.


Clinical Management of Male Infertility, Endocrinology Of Male ...
www.endotext.org/male/male7/male7_3.htm - Traducir esta página
Sperm autoimmunity is present in 6% to 10% of infertile men.35 They have ... irrelevant to the infertility and other causes of the couple's infertility should be ...
Peer comment(s):
agree EirTranslations
1 hr
Gracias, Beatriz.
neutral philgoddard : I don't think you can use the word "normality" because it says "No son valores de normalidad".
2 hrs
Right, but I said "lack of" before. Anyway, I was concentrating on the second part. The beginning should be sth like "but abnormal values", I think.
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These are not normality values, so anything different does not suggest fertility or sterility

In this phrase, the word "normalidad" is a concept used in chemistry to tell the concentration of something in a substance. In this case, the concentration of sperm in semen. This means that the numbers shown somewhere in the document do not show this concentration, so they do not show if the man is fertile or not.
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