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una tela de encaje

English translation: (perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace

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Spanish term or phrase: una tela de encaje
English translation:(perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace
Entered by: peter jackson

06:10 Dec 5, 2012
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Marketing - Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
Spanish term or phrase: una tela de encaje
En boca es como una tela de encaje perfectamente equilibrada, los taninos están fundidos, son muy flexibles al haberlo criado en barrica

I have been coming back to thsi phrase for 24 hours and am still stuck. At the moment I have "the complexity on the mouth is ....", which has plenty of hits but I'm just wondering if there is anything closer to the rather odd original.

Thanks in advance.
peter jackson
Spain
Local time: 15:13
(perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace
Explanation:
I often feel that tasting notes are a fertile field for wannabe poets. Sounding OTT is not a problem, but there are limits to the acceptable level of weirdness.

I feel here that (a) "perfectly balanced", being a standard term, should go in as is, if at all possible, and (b) the lace metaphor should be preserved if possible, rather than watered down.

I'd separate the balance from the lace; that connection doesn't make much sense to me. Lace is not the first comparison you'd choose to express balance. But lace is beautiful and intricate, and the latter is the key here to my mind. By all means keep "complexity" if you'd prefer (and that's a favourite term in tasting notes), but "intricacy" does the same job, I feel, and fits better with lace. I'd throw in "fine", just because it sounds better to me, and dispense with "tela", which adds nothing.

So that's what I've ended up with. Personally, I could imagine an English-speaking wine buff saying it.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2012-12-05 12:54:41 GMT)
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As an afterthought, lace is delicate as well as intricate, and you could perhaps say "with the intricate delicacy of fine lace", or even just"with an intricate delicacy", and not mention the lace at all. I like the "woven/weave" idea, but it's not easy to fit it into the whole phrase.
Selected response from:

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 15:13
Grading comment
I used delicacy. many thanks, as always.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1(perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace
Charles Davis
3 +1the (elements) are woven together perfectly/there is a perfect weave of...
erowe
4(it/the wine) is perfectly balanced on the palate
Jenni Lukac (X)
3a lace material
Magali Bramon
3finely layered (on the palate)
Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi)


  

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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
a lace material


Explanation:
I would translate it as it is in Spanish, to keep the source oddity... i. e.

the complexity on the mouth is like a lace material perfectly balanced...

What do you think?


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Note added at 31 mins (2012-12-05 06:42:34 GMT)
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or
the complexity on the mouth is like a perfectly balanced lace fabric...

Magali Bramon
Spain
Local time: 15:13
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in ItalianItalian
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
the (elements) are woven together perfectly/there is a perfect weave of...


Explanation:
Hope it hepls

erowe
Spain
Local time: 15:13
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Carol Gullidge: intricate weave (the perfectamente belongs to equilibrada) :"This wine layers flavor in a refreshing, intricate weave of cinnamon, coffee, caramel & cedar on the palate" ... www.betthefarmny.com/store.html
1 hr
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(it/the wine) is perfectly balanced on the palate


Explanation:
Another option.

Jenni Lukac (X)
Local time: 15:13
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 43

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Carol Gullidge: Hi Jenni: this captures all the surrounding terms but not the one that is being asked!
21 mins
  -> My suggestion was not to go over the top in English. Charles has it, but lace in the mouth sounds a bit off-putting in English.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(perfectly balanced in the mouth,) with the intricacy of fine lace


Explanation:
I often feel that tasting notes are a fertile field for wannabe poets. Sounding OTT is not a problem, but there are limits to the acceptable level of weirdness.

I feel here that (a) "perfectly balanced", being a standard term, should go in as is, if at all possible, and (b) the lace metaphor should be preserved if possible, rather than watered down.

I'd separate the balance from the lace; that connection doesn't make much sense to me. Lace is not the first comparison you'd choose to express balance. But lace is beautiful and intricate, and the latter is the key here to my mind. By all means keep "complexity" if you'd prefer (and that's a favourite term in tasting notes), but "intricacy" does the same job, I feel, and fits better with lace. I'd throw in "fine", just because it sounds better to me, and dispense with "tela", which adds nothing.

So that's what I've ended up with. Personally, I could imagine an English-speaking wine buff saying it.

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Note added at 6 hrs (2012-12-05 12:54:41 GMT)
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As an afterthought, lace is delicate as well as intricate, and you could perhaps say "with the intricate delicacy of fine lace", or even just"with an intricate delicacy", and not mention the lace at all. I like the "woven/weave" idea, but it's not easy to fit it into the whole phrase.

Charles Davis
Spain
Local time: 15:13
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 51
Grading comment
I used delicacy. many thanks, as always.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jesús Morales: Creo que transmite perfectamente la idea original en español.
15 mins
  -> ¡Gracias, Jesús!
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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
finely layered (on the palate)


Explanation:
"tela de encaje" sounds to me like "finely layered" in this context.

There are numerous references to "finely layered" wines. Hope you find it useful.

Accindo Fine Wines | Wine
www.accindofinewines.com/wine
The tobacco oak flavours enhance the palate to give a full bodied, complex dry red ..... the 2002 is tightly wound on the nose and finely layered on the palate ...

Wine tasting descriptors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_tasting_descriptors
Aftertaste : The taste left on the palate after wine has been swallowed. ... Complex : A wine that gives a perception of being multi-layered in terms of flavors and ...

Jacques Pépin Recipes and White Wines for the - Wine Spectator
static.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/46140
9 Dec 2011 – A finely layered wine in a light-bodied, fresh and accessible package. Drink now through 2020. 3,000 cases made.—A.N.. CHATEAU STE.
The Sorting Table, LLC - The Next Generation in Fine Wine ...
www.thesortingtable.com/V3/brand.php?pageId=10...1...
A finely layered wine, subtly weaving in the powerful acidity, while the smoke note gains intensity toward the stony, mineral-driven finish. A lot of power partnered ...
Flying Horse Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 2009
www.tastingroom.com/.../Flying-Horse-Napa-Val... - United States
This Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon is a finely layered wine exhibiting black cherry, black currant, raspberry, truffle, smoke and leather. There is a hint of floral, ...

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Note added at 1 día1 hora (2012-12-06 07:54:35 GMT)
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"finely layered texture/flavor, etc."

Luis Rey Ballesteros (Luiroi)
Local time: 07:13
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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