Feb 15, 2013 15:25
11 yrs ago
French term

tintamarre

French to English Art/Literary Music song lyrics
Context:
...
Quand je revois ma petite gare
Où chaque train passait joyeux
J'entends encore dans le tintamarre
Des mots bizarres
Des mots d'adieux
...

If it can rhyme with "station" all the better.
TIA

Discussion

kashew (asker) Feb 18, 2013:
Hi everyone! Yes, if it's singable, all the better.
Thank you all for your interest and glad it's been fun.
katsy Feb 16, 2013:
regarding wolf's suggestion My link to Youtube doesn't seem to work, so can't give you a link to the song... anyway, listen to it if you can. If I go by the tune, there is no problem with the 2nd last line - "des mots bizarres" being 5 notes (+ 5 syllables). For the first two lines, would be difficult to fit it in..but one could say (more comfortably for the tune) " and when I see my little station, where the trains passed/chuffed/chugged gaily by" The beats are on see, lit-, sta-, trains, gai-, by, in those two lines. This is all great fun, but I don't know if kashew wants a singable version!
Wolf Draeger Feb 16, 2013:
Based on susan's answer When I see my sweet little station
Where the trains passed happily by
I still hear amid the commotion
Words of confusion
Words of goodbye

9 syll - 8 syll - 9syll - 5 + 4 syll. If one could reduce the 2nd last line to 4 syllables, then the rhythm and rhyme would match the Fr.
katsy Feb 15, 2013:
having scrolled down.... Little Eva sang the Locomotion...
katsy Feb 15, 2013:
buzz? I'm going to be very old-fashioned here!! (Mais j'assume sans complexe!!!) The song these lines are a quote from is "Ménilmontant" by Charles Trénet http://fr.lyrics-copy.com/charles-trenet/menilmontant.htm
released in 1939, if I'm not mistaken. Buzz seems to me to be very anachronistic - Verginia's quote coming from (again if I'm not mistaken) 'Jesus Christ Superstar'. Anyway, the song is totally nostalgic, and seems to be very in tune with kashew's link to Mémoire de la gare de Ménilmontant. All that to say that I'm not very keen on buzz -especially when the "buzz" is , amongst other things, people saying fond farewells to each other..
Verginia Ophof Feb 15, 2013:
agree with kaskew re Buzz ..especially because to the next 2 lines :
Des mots bizarres
Des mots d'adieux
"what's the buzz, what's a happening, what's the buzz ?"
kashew (asker) Feb 15, 2013:
Rhymes station - agitation... ?
I keep thinking of "buzz" and "hum"!

Proposed translations

+3
35 mins
Selected

hubbub

Whenever I think of my station dear
with its trains chugging happily by
in the general hubbub I still can hear
strange words
(words) of goodbye
Note from asker:
Thanks: good inspiration.
Peer comment(s):

agree katsy : This has the advantage of practically fitting in with the tune!
1 hr
agree Yvonne Gallagher
1 hr
agree Cécile Gaultier
14 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone and their class suggestions."
7 mins

din

Or 'racket'. Not sure about the rhyming I'm afraid so that's why I've only entered a medium confidence but it conveys the meaning. Maybe someone else can come up with something that fits the song better.
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11 mins

noisy vibration

My first thought was "hullabaloo", but of course that doesn't rhyme at all...
Note from asker:
"hubbub" non plus! ;-)
Waterloo station!
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12 mins

confusion

the only word I can think of to rhyme with station is confabulation, not the term you want! lol
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15 mins

din/racket/ brouhaha...or maybe pandemonium for the rhyme

tintamarre is a confusing noise made of lots of different sounds
Note from asker:
Thanks for your suggestions: having seen the little branch-line station I think the noise and bustle was never much.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Jane F : does pandemonium rhyme with station?
22 mins
Yes it does
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+2
23 mins

hullabaloo ( but please read on!)

I adoooooore this song!!!
here is my attempt where (using poetic licence of course) I have changed the rhyme scheme:
With my (dear) little station in my mind's eye
where each train chuffed gaily through
I still hear through the hullabaloo
strange words, words of goodbye
OK it doesn't scan.... and certainly doesn't fit the tune but as we all know, nobody's perfect..

Ménilmontant... mais oui, madame....... (or monsieur as the case may be...)
Note from asker:
Thanks so much for your ideas: mind's eye/goodbye is very nice.
Peer comment(s):

agree Philippa Smith : excellent!
12 mins
Thanks Philippa :-)
agree Yvonne Gallagher : "with a dear.../I hear yet..." maybe improves rhythm?
2 hrs
Why not, there's certainly room for improvement! Thanks gallagy2 :-)
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+1
26 mins

commotion

trying to rhyme a little
Note from asker:
"Do the locomotion"! - who sang that? ;-)
Peer comment(s):

agree Wolf Draeger
18 hrs
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29 mins

exclamations

because it rhymes with station!

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Note added at 38 mins (2013-02-15 16:04:24 GMT)
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'amidst the exclamations' ........
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