terreno de la fatalidad

English translation: fatalistic context / fatalism

17:24 Nov 16, 2013
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy / Coaching
Spanish term or phrase: terreno de la fatalidad
From a book on coaching within a retail environment

El equipo directivo de la filial de una prestigiosa cadena de gran distribución se sorprendió al constatar el alto nivel de compromiso y orgullo de los equipos, pero combinado con un sentido de la fatalidad que llevaba a la sumisión más que a la toma de iniciativas.
Podemos entender que el entorno cultural e histórico ha marcado a ese colectivo.
El Coaching de los líderes-coaches en tal caso debe adaptarse al *****terreno de la fatalidad*****, entendiendo que la generación de un contexto de confianza y el acompañamiento positivo serán de suma relevancia para generar la toma de acción individual.

I don't see how coaching/leadership training can adapt itself to "a field of inevitability" or anything similar, I don't get the
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William Pairman
Spain
Local time: 19:30
English translation:fatalistic context / fatalism
Explanation:
I would be tempted to say "adapt to this fatalism", since the fatalism in question has already been mentioned in the previous paragraph.
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Simon Bruni
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4a cultural framework marked by (OR: of) fatalism/ OR: a fatalistic cultural framework
Pablo Julián Davis
4culture of fatalism
Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
3fatalistic context / fatalism
Simon Bruni
3pessimistic outlook
Helena Chavarria
3prevailing resignation
Robert Forstag


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fatalistic context / fatalism


Explanation:
I would be tempted to say "adapt to this fatalism", since the fatalism in question has already been mentioned in the previous paragraph.

Simon Bruni
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pessimistic outlook


Explanation:
One option.

pes·si·mism (ps-mzm)
n.
1. A tendency to stress the negative or unfavorable or to take the gloomiest possible view: "We have seen too much defeatism, too much pessimism, too much of a negative approach" (Margo Jones).
2. The doctrine or belief that this is the worst of all possible worlds and that all things ultimately tend toward evil.
3. The doctrine or belief that the evil in the world outweighs the good.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pessimistic

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I think it's referring to the current financial crisis. It's saying that many people are under the impression that even if they give their best, they will not obtain the results they expect/deserve. People give everything they've got but continually ask themselves, 'What's the point? No matter what I do, the crisis is stronger than me'.



Helena Chavarria
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prevailing resignation


Explanation:
And, for "sentido de la fatalidad," I would suggest: sense of resignation.

I don't see either "fatalistic" or "pessimistic" as working here.

Robert Forstag
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a cultural framework marked by (OR: of) fatalism/ OR: a fatalistic cultural framework


Explanation:
Jörg Knieling, ‎Frank Othengrafen. "These partial conclusions emphasise a cultural framework marked by a modest urbanity, with a patient/obedient rural society displaying faith in the spiritual ..." books.google.com/books?isbn=0754675653

Wm. Aiken: "... and screening within a cultural framework of destino (“destiny”), or the notion that both ... In contrast to simplistic notions of “fatalism”, our analysis..." www.authormapper.com/search.aspx?val=keyword:Fatalism

"One fundamental aspect to understand is that behind this problem lies a cultural framework marked by the patriarchal dynamic in which we live ..." mexicovoices.blogspot.com/.../mexico-current-cultural-model-justifies.ht...‎

Jeremy Green, Late Postmodernism. "...notably claims of annealing the divisions of the cultural terrain. ... projects, and have done so with a perspicacity and force that undercuts the fatalism that they ..." books.google.com/books?isbn=1403980403


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Pablo Julián Davis
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culture of fatalism


Explanation:
I think this is the best solution here.


    Reference: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/pakistan-must-sh...
    Reference: http://www.charlesalday.com/v1/2005/09/26/a-culture-of-fatal...
Karen Vincent-Jones (X)
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