Con l'aggravante di avere commesso il fatto [...]

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Italian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / criminal code- codice penale

Italian term or phrase: Con l'aggravante di avere commesso il fatto [...]

La frase è ellittica del verbo ed è parte integrante dei reati contestati all'indagato.
Mi chiedo come si possa ovviare a questa mancanza del verbo, tipica del linguaggio giudiziario penale italiano. Ho pensato a questa soluzione e cerco conforto nei colleghi madrelingua: "the aggravating circumstance of having committed... is charged against the person under investigation".
Any better solution?

Grazie in anticipo per i vs. preziosi suggerimenti

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With the aggravating circumstance of having committed the offence

Thomas Roberts

Compounded by commission of the actual choate offenc/se

Adrian MM. (X)

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13 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

With the aggravating circumstance of having committed the offence

Explanation:
The verb will be somewhere else in the context you have not provided, and without that we can only guess at the overall structure, and also accordingly how the snippet provided should be translated.

Thomas Roberts
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Italian
PRO pts in category: 2715

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks a lot, Thomas, but, as I told before, there's no verb at all. The phrase comes after a list of charges, notably: "accusato del delitto di cui all'articoloxxxx". Then there comes"con l'aggravante di........... Maybe this could help? ?

7 hrs confidence:

Compounded by commission of the actual choate offenc/se

Explanation:
Commission of an offence is not in Anglo-Am law an aggravating factor or circumstance - there might have been a preliminary attempt or conspiracy turning an 'inchoate' into a 'choate' offenc/se.

A literal translation might not do, rather an understanding of the way EN indictments are drafted.

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Indeed, that'y my very point: that the commission is not the aggravating factor e.g. aggravated robbery in EN includes the use of armed force. But the robbery itself os not legalistically the aggravation.

Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/law_general/382...

Adrian MM. (X)
Local time: 07:17
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 769

Notes to answerer

Asker: The commission of the offence is not the aggravating circumstance, which is described later: "ricorrendo all'uso di....". Thank you anyway for helping.

Asker: Thanks a lot for the link you pasted on a similar request.I'll translate following that post. Unfortunately I don't agree with the suggested translation

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