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Reunidos... de una parte XXX y XXX, de la otra XXX y XXX

English translation: By and between ... x of the (BrE) one/(AmE) first part & x of the (BrE) other/(AmE) second part

10:48 Mar 14, 2016
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Law (general) / Lease
Spanish term or phrase: Reunidos... de una parte XXX y XXX, de la otra XXX y XXX
Hello,

I'm translating a contract and I'm a bit in doubt. I usually translate this as:

By and between,
XXX
and
XXX

However, each party is made up of two people in this case.

So I could use:

By and between,
XXX and XXX
and
XXX and XXX

or

By and between,
XXX and XXX
Party of the first part
and
XXX and XXX
Party of the second part

I'm not too crazy about either of these options. Which one would you choose? Thank you in advance!
Guillermo Urbina Valdés
United Kingdom
English translation:By and between ... x of the (BrE) one/(AmE) first part & x of the (BrE) other/(AmE) second part
Explanation:
D/w many times on ProZ.

Reunidos: assembled in person vs. parties represented at a distance was used by my law firm in Madrid.

In the UK, the legal drafting convention for about 500 years - though ignored and even disputed by many translators - in contracts and deeds between two parties-only is: 'of the one part and of the other part'.

Of the first and second part - cf. the USA - would be incorrect (marks deducted in Bar Finals for bad legal drafting), as assumes there are further parties, namely third, fourth and fifth or more parties (e.g. necessary in purchase deeds of land where a mortagee and/or tenant for life join in the conveyance).

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Local time: 17:48
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4 +1By and between ... x of the (BrE) one/(AmE) first part & x of the (BrE) other/(AmE) second part
Adrian MM. (X)
4 +1By and Between.... XXX and XXX on the one hand and XXX and XXX on the other hand
eski


  

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By and between ... x of the (BrE) one/(AmE) first part & x of the (BrE) other/(AmE) second part


Explanation:
D/w many times on ProZ.

Reunidos: assembled in person vs. parties represented at a distance was used by my law firm in Madrid.

In the UK, the legal drafting convention for about 500 years - though ignored and even disputed by many translators - in contracts and deeds between two parties-only is: 'of the one part and of the other part'.

Of the first and second part - cf. the USA - would be incorrect (marks deducted in Bar Finals for bad legal drafting), as assumes there are further parties, namely third, fourth and fifth or more parties (e.g. necessary in purchase deeds of land where a mortagee and/or tenant for life join in the conveyance).




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Adrian MM. (X)
Local time: 17:48
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agree  eVeritas
6 hrs
  -> Thanks. I am gratified by your blessing of my US propositioning.
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By and Between.... XXX and XXX on the one hand and XXX and XXX on the other hand


Explanation:
www.suscon.org/.../AbandonedMines/.../AFCRiver_Snowbirdaccessagree...
This Site Access Agreement ("Agreement") is entered into by and between Trout ... on the one hand, and Snowbird Ltd., a Utah limited partnership, and related.
Joint Declaration on relations between the European Union ...
ec.europa.eu › ... › International Cooperation and Development
Mar 19, 2015 - Joint Declaration on relations between the European Union, on the one hand, and the Government of Greenland and the Government of ...
de una parte y por otra parte > by and between / on the one ...
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Feb 17, 2009 - (KudoZ) Spanish to English translation of de una parte y por otra parte: by and between / on the one hand... on the other hand / party of the ...
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eski
Mexico
Local time: 09:48
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 625

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