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Aug 23, 2019 02:39
4 yrs ago
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Arabic term

فكل مقصودٍ بالعبادة معبود، وكلّ مقصود للعِبادة وسيلة

Arabic to English Social Sciences Religion
What difference in meaning of the harf jar "ب" and "ل" bring in the above phrase? Is this translation "Any one sought with worship is the one worshipped, and any one sought using worship is the one acts as intermediary" correct? Thanks for help!
Proposed translations (English)
3 any being set aside for worship is worshiped, and any one meant for worshiping is a means.
Change log

Aug 23, 2019 03:11: fird_77 changed "Language pair" from "Arabic to Indonesian" to "Arabic to English"

Aug 25, 2019 02:23: Murad AWAD changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"

Discussion

fird_77 (asker) Aug 23, 2019:
Thanks Dr. Zareh for your short explanation.
Zareh Darakjian Ph.D. Aug 23, 2019:
Change any one to the One.
Change means to an instrument.
You can call me Zareh.
Mr. Zareh is not right. If you want titles, it is Dr. Zareh.
You can call me Zareh, though.
fird_77 (asker) Aug 23, 2019:
And what is this sentence talking about? It seems that there is a big difference between وسيلة and معبود here.
fird_77 (asker) Aug 23, 2019:
Mr. Zareh... Let me summarize your point: a) فكل مقصودٍ بالعبادة معبود any one set aside for the purpose of being worshiped is worshiped, and b) وكلّ مقصود للعِبادة وسيلة any one set aside for the purpose of worshiping is a means. Do I get your point right?
fird_77 (asker) Aug 23, 2019:
Dear, Sir. Thanks for your reply. Could you please elaborate "any one meant for worshiping is a means?"
The point that confuses me is harf jar "ب" and "ل" in the above sentence.

Proposed translations

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any being set aside for worship is worshiped, and any one meant for worshiping is a means.

Here مقصودٍ means "targeted" or "set aside" and not
"meant"

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Note added at 3 hrs (2019-08-23 05:53:06 GMT)
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"means" or an "instrument"

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Note added at 3 hrs (2019-08-23 06:36:07 GMT)
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Anyone set aside for worshipping God (harf jar L = for)

Any One set aside to be worshipped (God) (harf jar B = L).


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Note added at 3 hrs (2019-08-23 06:39:29 GMT)
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Sorry, harf jar B = to be (worshiped)

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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-08-23 06:57:11 GMT)
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Harf jar B is in reference to God = the One to be worshipped.

Harf jar L is in reference to the worshiper (l = the one set aside for the purpose of worshiping.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-08-23 06:58:48 GMT)
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B = for the purpose of being worshiped
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