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French translation: interlocuteur

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
English term or phrase:counterparty
French translation:interlocuteur
Entered by: Cyril Tollari

07:40 Nov 20, 2019
English to French translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
English term or phrase: counterparty
Dans le cadre d'une demande d'autorisation de fourniture de gaz auprès des pouvoirs publics français :

Having consulted extensively with its counterparties in the market who are facing the same business uncertainties [en raison du Brexit], X has decided to apply for a Supply Licence in order to continue trading in France.

Il s'agit du marché européen du gaz. Le client est britannique, mais c'est la filiale d'un groupe étranger à l'UE.

Je ne comprends pas ces counterparties. Ça ne semble pas correspondre au sens habituel (contrats, prêts, etc.) D'après le contexte, il ne s'agit pas non plus d'autres filiales du groupe. Pensé à « concurrents (sur ce marché) », mais j'ai un doute : on ne se renseigne pas sur un marché en allant consulter ses futurs concurrents.

Sans être très formel, le texte est bien écrit et le client est sérieux, donc j'écarte l'erreur a priori, même si personne n'est à l'abri.

Je pourrai si nécessaire demander au client, mais je voudrais faire un tour de piste ici au préalable.

Merci, comme d'hab !
Ph_B (X)
France
Local time: 13:32
interlocuteur
Explanation:
counterparty
interlocuteur

counterparty
an opposite party in a contract or financial transaction.

interlocuteur
2. En partic. Partenaire ou adversaire avec lequel on engage une discussion, des négociations, des pourparlers.
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/interlocuteur

Dans ce contexte de marché, on parle d'interlocuteur qui englobe toutes les notions recherchées (pas seulement concurrents, mais fournisseurs, partenaires, etc).

Qui sont mes interlocuteurs dans le marché de l’énergie ?
https://www.energuide.be/fr/questions-reponses/qui-sont-mes-...

nombreux interlocuteurs contractuels
https://www.lemoniteur.fr/article/contrats-de-la-constructio...

aider les entreprises à négocier et à gérer leurs relations avec les différents interlocuteurs des entreprises.
https://www.fntp.fr/infodoc/juridique-marches/gestion-contra...
Selected response from:

Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 13:32
Grading comment
Merci !
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +1homologues/pairs
Eyango NKongo Flore
4 +1contreparties sur le marché / Partenaires
Marcombes (X)
4interlocuteur
Cyril Tollari
3concurrent
Samuel Clarisse
4 -1ses partenaires commerciaux sur le marché français du gaz
Daryo


Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
concurrent


Explanation:
Je le comprends également dans ce sens...
J'imagine qu'ils s'adressent à leurs homologues/compétition commerciale, ce qui s'effectue quand même assez souvent sur un marché.

Samuel Clarisse
France
Local time: 13:32
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 58

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  mchd
28 mins
agree  Maïté Mendiondo-George: concurrents aussi avec l'ouverture des marchés
6 hrs
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: pas le sens
1 day 5 hrs
disagree  Daryo: ... leurs homologues // peut-être "partenaires commerciaux", en aucun cas "concurrents"
1 day 12 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
contreparties sur le marché / Partenaires


Explanation:
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Marcombes (X)
France
Local time: 13:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 102

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Helene Carrasco-Nabih
21 mins
  -> Merci
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
interlocuteur


Explanation:
counterparty
interlocuteur

counterparty
an opposite party in a contract or financial transaction.

interlocuteur
2. En partic. Partenaire ou adversaire avec lequel on engage une discussion, des négociations, des pourparlers.
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/interlocuteur

Dans ce contexte de marché, on parle d'interlocuteur qui englobe toutes les notions recherchées (pas seulement concurrents, mais fournisseurs, partenaires, etc).

Qui sont mes interlocuteurs dans le marché de l’énergie ?
https://www.energuide.be/fr/questions-reponses/qui-sont-mes-...

nombreux interlocuteurs contractuels
https://www.lemoniteur.fr/article/contrats-de-la-constructio...

aider les entreprises à négocier et à gérer leurs relations avec les différents interlocuteurs des entreprises.
https://www.fntp.fr/infodoc/juridique-marches/gestion-contra...

Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 13:32
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 80
Grading comment
Merci !
Notes to answerer
Asker: Intéressant...


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: too vague - they certainly "talk to each other" but that wouldn't make them automatically "counterparties" [nor even "counterparts")
1 day 13 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
homologues/pairs


Explanation:
Bearing the context in mind, it is obvious that the client mistakenly wrote "counterparty" instead of writing"counterparts" . Then the correspondent French word is "homologues" or "pairs"

Eyango NKongo Flore
Cameroon
Local time: 12:32
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Eliza Hall: I think you're right about the writer's mistake.
2 hrs
neutral  Daryo: a distinct possibility - would make sense, but as Asker says the text was well written, only a second option.
1 day 7 hrs
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1 day 15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
its counterparties in the market
ses partenaires commerciaux sur le marché français du gaz


Explanation:
Seen as a group "its counterparties in the market" would be all the "other parties" in various transactions that this company has in "the market", the definite article being there because it's specifically the French market for gaz, not "market" as a general category.

This interpretation also makes sense, and there is no need to assume any typo/wrong choice of term.

Having consulted extensively with its counterparties in the market who are facing the same business uncertainties [en raison du Brexit]
=>
Having consulted extensively with all the companies they have dealings with in the (French) market (for gaz) who are facing the same business uncertainties [en raison du Brexit]





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Note added at 1 day 15 hrs (2019-11-21 23:31:19 GMT)
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You would assume that both this company and all the various "counterparties" in its ongoing trading (live contracts) in the French market for gaz would want to keep their existing commercial relations going, Brexit or no Brexit, so they would "consult" each other how to go about it.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:32
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 266

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: partenaires commerciaux = homologues
5 hrs
  -> Beyond nonsense.
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