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French term

esthétique

Non-PRO French to English Other Education / Pedagogy School report
Hello

This is a question for people who are familiar with francophone education systems.

The source is a school report for a student in in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. As you would expect, there is a list of subjects including "histoire", "anglais", "chimie", "dessin", "géographie" and so on. But there is also a subject "esthétique", which I am not sure about. I am considering these possibilities:
1. "Esthetics" as in "beauty treatments". (In France it is possible to do a baccalauréat specialising in "esthétique cosmétique parfumerie"; on the other hand, the student here is a 12 to 13-year-old male, which makes this interpretation a bit unlikely.)
2. "Esthetics" in the literal sense (i.e. theory of art)
3. "Design"

Can anyone help me choose between these possibilities, or suggest a better one? Thanks in advance,

Michael
Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 Aesthetics
4 +1 Art
Change log

Feb 16, 2021 19:10: Conor McAuley changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): Yvonne Gallagher, philgoddard, Conor McAuley

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Discussion

Bokani Hart Feb 17, 2021:
@M&YTranslations Understood :)
Conor McAuley Feb 16, 2021:
"1. OBJECTIF [...]

Il est d’ailleurs souhaitable que le professeur initie à l’occasion ses élèves à d’autres formes artistiques, musique, cinéma, poésie."
M&YTranslations (asker) Feb 16, 2021:
Well done Bokani Hart for not just quoting a widely available dictionary definition but taking the trouble to ask a DRC friend about "Esthétique". However, "Art" as a translation seems too broad – this class could include producing art as well as understanding it. As the document from the DRC Ministry of Education discovered by ph-b makes clear though, the "Esthétique" class here is about understanding art. Unfortunately though, I doubt that such a class would be called "Aesthetics/Esthetics" if it existed in an English-speaking secondary school. The obvious term for a class about understanding art is "Art Appreciation". My thanks go to Bokani Hart and ph-b for their efforts; although I did not accept their suggestions, they helped me on the way to what I believe is the appropriate translation. I'd like to award points to ph-b for what seems to me the most helpful answer, but there seems to be no way to do that. Sorry!

Proposed translations

+4
6 mins

Aesthetics


The appreciation of beauty. Seems a bit strange, but there you go.

Oscar Wilde, art for art's sake, that kind of thing.

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A more formal definition:

"Definition of aesthetic (Entry 2 of 2)
1aesthetics also esthetics\ es-​ˈthe-​tiks , is-​ , British usually ēs-​ \ plural in form but singular or plural in construction : a branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of beauty, art, and taste and with the creation and appreciation of beauty"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aesthetic


Pupils start the French vocational beauty treatments bac course at about age 15 I think.

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Note added at 44 mins (2021-02-16 18:03:00 GMT)
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(The point about the French course being that the French system is often used as a template in French-speaking African countries, of which DRC is one, albeit a former Belgian and not former French colony.)
Peer comment(s):

agree Barbara Cochran, MFA
5 mins
Thanks Barbara!
agree Thomas Miles : In a list of fields (whether these fields are GCSE subjects or high-level intellectual specialisms) this would be it.
1 hr
Thanks Thomas!
agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thanks Phil!
agree ph-b (X) : https://docplayer.fr/14701134-Programme-national-d-esthetiqu...
2 hrs
"Développer la sensibilité de l’élève et ouvrir son esprit aux différentes formes du beau." Thanks! I like it, and I think it can be safely defined as aesthetics and not art, but thanks Bokani.
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+1
1 hr

Art

'Art' according to a DR Congo friend of mine, which is convenient catch-all phrase for secondary/high school art lessons.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lucy Teasdale
30 days
Thanks Lucy :)
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