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cross-Gothic

English translation: Gothic cross-ribbed

06:32 Oct 27, 2022
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Architecture
English term or phrase: cross-Gothic
The Gothic Church of St. Bartholomew in the village of Mladočov has a cross-Gothic ribbed
vault in the presbytery; the nave has a wooden beamed ceiling.
Siting Tang
China
Local time: 03:58
Selected answer:Gothic cross-ribbed
Explanation:
The words are in the wrong order.

A rib vault or ribbed vault is an architectural feature for covering a wide space, such as a church nave, composed of a framework of crossed or diagonal arched ribs.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rib_vault
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philgoddard
United States
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +5Gothic cross-ribbed
philgoddard
3 -2a Gothic vault which has the shape of a cross if looked right from above or below
Kiet Bach
Summary of reference entries provided
Illustration
Tony M
The Church of St. Bartholomew in the village of Mladočov
Daryo

Discussion entries: 3





  

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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
cross-gothic
Gothic cross-ribbed


Explanation:
The words are in the wrong order.

A rib vault or ribbed vault is an architectural feature for covering a wide space, such as a church nave, composed of a framework of crossed or diagonal arched ribs.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rib_vault

philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Got it. Thank you very much!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you all for your suggestions. I have really learned a lot!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  JaneD
23 mins
agree  Tony M: Though not necessarily an error of word order: we may think of it as a vault consisting of crossed Gothic ribs. Sounds like US punctuation: I'd have put 'cross Gothic-ribbed vault'
1 hr
  -> Thanks. But the syntax and punctuation are confusing, which is probably why the asker has posted the question.
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: As said above, not necessarily wrong word order
1 hr
agree  Zheng Ma
2 hrs
agree  Clauwolf
4 hrs
neutral  Christopher Crockett: Sorry Phil, but in 50+ years as a medieval art hysterian, i have to say that i've never --ever-- seen the term "cross ribbed" used. Just saying "rib vault" is enough at least for those fimailiar with the "Gothic" style.
18 hrs
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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
cross-gothic
a Gothic vault which has the shape of a cross if looked right from above or below


Explanation:
http://www.lanera.com/casteldelmonte/cvtech_172/page-172-03....

cross-Gothic ribbed vault: 十字哥德式罗纹拱顶



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Note added at 9 hrs (2022-10-27 16:20:40 GMT)
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"cross-" might also mean "not-pure" or "of mixed variety".
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/cross-

cross-Gothic ribbed vault: 混杂了哥特式的罗纹拱顶；非纯哥特式的罗纹拱顶


Kiet Bach
United States
Local time: 12:58
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for providing another perspective!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: What your reference is about is something quite different... in effect, the intersection of two vaults; this is about the fact that the vault is made of Gothic (= pointed) arches that criss-cross.
1 hr
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: No, it doesn't mean this
1 hr
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Reference comments


2 hrs peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: Illustration

Reference information:
This is the simplest, most basic image of a cross-ribbed vault — not how it is quite different from a crossed vault.

https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/04/59/28/14/360_F_459281481_uCF9BvO...

Tony M
France
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Note to reference poster
Asker: It is very clear. Thank you for your illustration!


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: Yes, and easily found if not already known
7 mins
  -> Thanks, Yvonne!
agree  Zheng Ma
26 mins
  -> Thanks, Zheng Ma!
agree  Daryo: The rest of the ceiling might look as a crossed vault (not always) but the key point is in the ribs.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks, Daryo!
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8 hrs peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: The Church of St. Bartholomew in the village of Mladočov

Reference information:
The church:



https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mladocov_sv_Bart_od_...



The presbytery and the ribbed vault:



Interior of the Church of Saint Bartholomew (Mladočov)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Interior_of_the_...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thank you very much! It really helps.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Tony M
5 hrs
  -> Thanks!
agree  Zheng Ma: Very simple and clear illustration!
11 hrs
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