parting

French translation: remise volontaire à autrui de ...

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English term or phrase:parting
French translation:remise volontaire à autrui de ...
Entered by: Lavinia Pirlog

19:19 Nov 30, 2012
English to French translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
English term or phrase: parting
The policy does not cover
vii) loss or damage due to voluntarily parting with the equipment or caused by any dishonest or criminal acts, fraudulent scheme, trick, device, or false pretence
Lavinia Pirlog
Romania
Local time: 05:01
suite à la remise volontaire à autrui de ...
Explanation:
ou bien:
"suite à la remise de plein gré à autrui de l'équipement..."

il est simplement question de remettre la chose entre les mains d'autrui - pas de liens directs avec un transfert de droit de propriété.


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aussi:
suite à la remise volontaire à un tiers de ...

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un example:
" .....
L'absence de remise volontaire: s'il y a remise volontaire, il ne peut y avoir vol. Si la remise volontaire s'effectue par erreur (c'est-à-dire en se croyant propriétaire), une jurisprudence constante considère qu'il n'y a pas vol même si l'intention frauduleuse est caractérisée.
... "
[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vol_en_droit_pénal_français]

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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:01
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1suite à la remise volontaire à autrui de ...
Daryo
4 +1cession
Guereau
4dans les cas où on se débarasse délibérément de l'équipement
Johanne Bouthillier
Summary of reference entries provided
possession and ownership
Daryo

  

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due to voluntarily parting with the equipment
dans les cas où on se débarasse délibérément de l'équipement


Explanation:
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Johanne Bouthillier
Canada
Local time: 22:01
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 36
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
due to voluntarily parting with
suite à la remise volontaire à autrui de ...


Explanation:
ou bien:
"suite à la remise de plein gré à autrui de l'équipement..."

il est simplement question de remettre la chose entre les mains d'autrui - pas de liens directs avec un transfert de droit de propriété.


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aussi:
suite à la remise volontaire à un tiers de ...

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Note added at 6 hrs (2012-12-01 01:47:31 GMT)
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un example:
" .....
L'absence de remise volontaire: s'il y a remise volontaire, il ne peut y avoir vol. Si la remise volontaire s'effectue par erreur (c'est-à-dire en se croyant propriétaire), une jurisprudence constante considère qu'il n'y a pas vol même si l'intention frauduleuse est caractérisée.
... "
[http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vol_en_droit_pénal_français]

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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:01
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 266

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Guereau: I agree with this translation
1 day 9 hrs
  -> Merci!
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
cession


Explanation:
ou "aliénation"
ne couvre pas les pertes ou préjudices imputables à la cession ou aliénation volontaire...

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I withdraw my answer following Daryo's.

Guereau
France
Local time: 04:01
Works in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 64

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Finn Skovgaard (X)
21 mins

agree  Danièle Horta
28 mins

disagree  Daryo: "voluntary parting" is about possession, not ownership; as in: “VF voluntarily parted with the computer equipment when it leased the property to M. [https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/355/355.F3d.640.03...]
58 mins
  -> I checked and you are right, I withdraw my translation (that was too hasty)
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Reference comments


3 hrs
Reference: possession and ownership

Reference information:
"voluntarily parting with" is not about transfer of ownership, but about who is in possession of the property.

One classical piece of advice for sellers "do not part with the goods before payment has cleared" i.e. don’t let it out of your hands...

"The policy's "false pretense" exclusion precludes recovery for a loss caused by voluntarily "parting with any property by you or anyone else to whom you have entrusted the property if induced to do so by any fraudulent scheme, trick, device or false pretense." Wisconsin courts have deemed policies with substantially similar language to preclude an insured's recovery for a loss resulting from property theft. See, e.g., Waters Motor v. Grain Dealers, 12 Wis.2d 231, 107 N.W.2d 129, 130-31 (1961) (precluding recovery for the loss of a stolen vehicle when the insured entrusted the vehicle to a prospective purchaser and recounting numerous instances in which the court had taken similar action). Similar treatment is warranted here. Vision Financial voluntarily parted with the computer equipment when it leased the property to Mufti and it was induced to do so by Arshad's fraudulent scheme. ....."
[https://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/355/355.F3d.640.03...]

Daryo
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 266
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