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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

esta enorme masa en movimiento

English translation:

restless multitude

Added to glossary by Lisa McCarthy
Mar 2, 2010 18:27
14 yrs ago
Spanish term

esta enorme masa en movimiento

Spanish to English Social Sciences Government / Politics Argentina
This is from a speech by Juan Perón. I'm getting bugged by the repeated use of "esta masa" -- "this mass" sounds like a growth! So, I'm wondering if others might have some better ideas for expressing this?

Diariamente iremos incorporando a esta enorme masa en movimiento a todos los díscolos y descontentos, para que, junto con nosotros, se confundan en esta masa hermosa y patriota que constituyen ustedes
Proposed translations (English)
3 gathering of people / multitude
4 +1 (aggregate) multitude of followers
4 +1 this huge multitude on the move
4 this huge multitude in action
4 this huge wave of people
4 this mass movement
3 this vast movement of people / this huge wave of movement
Change log

Mar 10, 2010 15:45: Lisa McCarthy Created KOG entry

Discussion

Patricia Rosas (asker) Mar 2, 2010:
on "movimiento" I just realized that later in the speech, Perón uses "movimientos obreros" to refer to protests (not the overall "workers movement" that is behind the demonstrations). I can't find any support for translating movimiento as protest, but I think he is telegraphing the idea of workers protesting/demonstrating against the government in power (he is out of power) when he says "masa en movimiento" (fwiw!).
Lisa McCarthy Mar 2, 2010:
oops, forgot about 'en movimiento'! - I'll get back to you on that :-)
Patricia Rosas (asker) Mar 2, 2010:
Hi, Lisa! I'd stuck "multitude" in brackets in places, so I like your answer! He is speaking in front of the cabildo in Buenos Aires in 1945, before an audience of mostly workers. This was just after he was arrested and then released following mass protests. Any suggestions for the "en movimiento" part (this enormous multitude in motion?)? THX!!
Lisa McCarthy Mar 2, 2010:
Hi Patricia Where exactly is Perón and who is he addressing?

Proposed translations

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gathering of people / multitude

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Note added at 7 minutos (2010-03-02 18:35:31 GMT)
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or "huge/enormous gathering etc...."

[PDF]
Sponsorship Pack - Fourth Annual Global Peace & Unity Event
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keen on soaking up the atmosphere of this **enormous gathering**; gleaning knowledge from internationally ... Inspirational, Political and religious Speeches ..... the UK Muslim community.” Hon Cassam Uteem. Former President Mauritius ...
www.theglobalunity.com/text_pdfs/GPU08_Sponsorship_Pack_WEB...

History of the New York Fire Department, Ch. 45, Part V
Just previous to the presidential election in 1884, a number of the old ... to your grand oration and witnessing this **enormous gathering of your citizens,*** ...
www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/fire/41-50/ch45pt5.html

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Note added at 21 minutos (2010-03-02 18:49:37 GMT)
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for 'en movimiento' you could use 'in motion' maybe.

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Note added at 23 minutos (2010-03-02 18:51:05 GMT)
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Crikey, I'm asleep! Just read the whole of your message and see you put 'in motion'. Doh!!! I'll see if I can come up with something else :-)

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Note added at 28 minutos (2010-03-02 18:56:12 GMT)
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To be honest, I'm not really sure what exactly he means to say by this 'en movimiento', but here's a couple of ideas:

"Stirring multitude......." / "Multitude on the move..."

[PDF]
Coningsby
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
by B Disraeli - Cited by 51 - Related articles
**stirring multitude**, the energetic groups, the individual mind that leads, conquers, controls; the emulation and the affection; the noble strife and the ...
ebooks.lib.unair.ac.id/files/disk1/54/adln--disraelibe-2675-1-coningsby.pdf

Remarks Of Michael K. Powell Commissioner Federal Communications ...
We are clearly and dramatically seeing the dust rising from a **multitude on the move.** Species migrate both to seek more favorable environments and to escape ...
www.fcc.gov/Speeches/Powell/2000/spmkp003.txt - Cached

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Note added at 30 minutos (2010-03-02 18:58:06 GMT)
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Another couple: "Moving / mobile multitude"

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Note added at 33 minutos (2010-03-02 19:01:13 GMT)
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Maybe "Restless multitude" in light of new context.
Note from asker:
I like restless! And crikey! Don't worry about not seeing the note I stuck up there!! Saludos from this side of the pond!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to everyone for their thoughts. Gilla was very perceptive for hitting on "mass movement" -- I think he was telegraphing that idea. But Lisa came up with "restless multitude and the client and I both liked that. So, pts. to Lisa!"
+1
6 mins

(aggregate) multitude of followers

Una opción...
Peer comment(s):
agree Cecilia Rey : I like this option with huge: "huge multitude of followers"
44 mins
Cecil, muy amable nuevamamente....xen :-))
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29 mins

this vast movement of people / this huge wave of movement

It seems to me that this is a movement of people.. there are lots of ways of expressing it, with waves or tides joining simply "Movement".
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38 mins

this huge multitude in action

I think "mass" would really be more accurate, but "multitude" in action might also work.
Example sentence:

I can see a huge multitude filling the horizon

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43 mins

this huge wave of people

"wave" conveys the meaning "en movimiento"
"masa" refers to people
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+1
2 hrs

this huge multitude on the move

although I think later in your text you should overcome your reluctance to use "mass".
Peer comment(s):
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : Yes, and I think 'on the move' is important.
2 hrs
Thank-you, Muriel!
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15 hrs

this mass movement

Coming to this rather late, but I think you could use this expression here. It uses mass adjectivally and movement as the noun, which departs from the original construction but is a standard term in English for this meaning in politics.

"Mass movement refers to the political concept of a political party or movement which is supported by large segments of a population."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_movement

"We could never call on a mass movement to support us in getting health care reform, because who can really get excited over a PO that won’t produce universal coverage?"

http://kmci.org/alllifeisproblemsolving/archives/strategy-ta...

"Stop the War: The Story of Britain’s Biggest Mass Movement.
Their book tells a story about a 'remarkable mass movement' which the authors hope 'can change the face of politics for a generation."

http://www.dissentmagazine.org/democratiya/article_pdfs/d2Mu...
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