Apr 8, 2018 21:45
6 yrs ago
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Spanish term
a quien le compra la sociedad
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Finance (general)
Missing trader fraud
I think my brain's stopped working because try as I might, I just don't understand a phrase. Three Spanish people have tried to explain the meaning but I'm none the wiser :-(
The context:
Missing trader fraud (also called missing trader intra-community, MTIC, or carousel fraud) is the theft of Value Added Tax (VAT) from a government by organised crime gangs who exploit the way VAT is treated within multi-jurisdictional trading where the movement of goods between jurisdictions is VAT-free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_trader_fraud
Here is the fragment where the phrase appears:
O tambien se han detallado muchos casos en que la trucha española (sociedad 3) contacta directamente con el proveedor en origen (la sociedad 1) sin pasar por su propio proveedor teórico (que es la sociedad 2). Otras veces, aunque los contactos se producen de un eslabón a otro según lo esperable (de la 4 con la 3, de la 3 con la 2 y de ésta a la 1), se aprecia claramente que la sociedad 4 tiene información sobre **a quien le compra** la sociedad 3 o incluso la sociedad 2, a qué precios, a qué personas, etc.
'truchas' are 'missing traders'.
I don't understand if company 4 has information about who buys from or sells to company 3.
I would also appreciate some help with 'a qué personas' - does it refer to the people who buy or sell?
Thank you in advance!
The context:
Missing trader fraud (also called missing trader intra-community, MTIC, or carousel fraud) is the theft of Value Added Tax (VAT) from a government by organised crime gangs who exploit the way VAT is treated within multi-jurisdictional trading where the movement of goods between jurisdictions is VAT-free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_trader_fraud
Here is the fragment where the phrase appears:
O tambien se han detallado muchos casos en que la trucha española (sociedad 3) contacta directamente con el proveedor en origen (la sociedad 1) sin pasar por su propio proveedor teórico (que es la sociedad 2). Otras veces, aunque los contactos se producen de un eslabón a otro según lo esperable (de la 4 con la 3, de la 3 con la 2 y de ésta a la 1), se aprecia claramente que la sociedad 4 tiene información sobre **a quien le compra** la sociedad 3 o incluso la sociedad 2, a qué precios, a qué personas, etc.
'truchas' are 'missing traders'.
I don't understand if company 4 has information about who buys from or sells to company 3.
I would also appreciate some help with 'a qué personas' - does it refer to the people who buy or sell?
Thank you in advance!
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +2 | whom company 3 purchases from | Robert Carter |
Proposed translations
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Spanish term (edited):
a quien le compra la sociedad 3
Selected
whom company 3 purchases from
Hi Helena. I'm fairly certain this means that company 4 is well aware whom company 3 or even company 2 buys from, and at what prices, since the intermediaries are mostly in name only.
What I don't understand is "a qué personas", as it seems to me to mean the same thing as "a quien le compra".
What I don't understand is "a qué personas", as it seems to me to mean the same thing as "a quien le compra".
Note from asker:
Thank you, Robert. You make it look easy but the more I read the phrase, the less I understood it. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Jennifer Levey
: "comprar a" --> "buy from". "a qué personas" quite likely refers to (other) intermediaries (personas civiles or jurídicas as the case may be).
10 mins
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Thanks, Robin, yes, could well be the names of the actual people involved rather than the company names on the invoices.
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agree |
Charles Davis
: Yes, and "a qué personas" means "from which people": not only the identity of the company but also who is behind it. It means personas físicas.
19 mins
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Thanks, Charles, yes, I think it probably does.
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Comment: "Gracias :-)"
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