Helen Unger Clark (X) Sep 16, 2022:

"Berry" for "grano" Hi William! I'm seeing "grain" used as a translation for "grano". May I suggest "berry" instead? https://girtraduvino.com/es/recursos/ver/1025/grano/ and Ernesto de Serdio (Diccionario profesional del vino: Una perspectiva española) both suggest it as the translation for "grano".

I do like the suggested translation: "more intense grapes, with looser..." berries.

Good luck with the translation!

Adoración Bodoque Martínez Sep 14, 2022:

I am not a wine expert, but I know that grapes need sun to ripen and for them to have a richer flavour. So, I would guess that the tighter or closer together the grapes are the less sun they will get and the less flavoursome they will be.

Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A. Sep 14, 2022:

Wine grapes: small grapes, concentrated flavors In brackets, I had written (taste).

"Wine grapes are small because their flavors are made to be concentrated"
https://drinkssaloon.com/are-wine-grapes-edible/

Adoración Bodoque Martínez Sep 14, 2022:

I am almost sure it does not refer to the shape. I do not think the shape of the bunch would make any difference to the quality of the wine. Here, we are talking about fine wines.

philgoddard Sep 14, 2022:

I'm also not sure whether "concentradas" refers to the shape of the bunches, or to the flavor.

Adoración Bodoque Martínez Sep 14, 2022:

@Phil I can't argue with that! :) That is why I suggested the alternative use of "grapes" for it, if there is no other way of saying it in English.

philgoddard Sep 14, 2022:

Adoración Your reference is a poor-quality translation from Spanish, hence the enormously long sentence and things like "grains of the ear" and "the commerciality is improved". "Grains" is not the correct translation, but "looser, strongly flavored grapes" could be the meaning.

Adoración Bodoque Martínez Sep 14, 2022:

If "grains" does not sound idiomatic in English, you could always say "looser grapes".

Adoración Bodoque Martínez Sep 14, 2022:

@Phil "Granos" refers to the individual grains in the cluster of grapes. And, yes, it does mean that they are not so close together. I believe you also call them "grains" in English:

https://inf.news/en/news/006ac984af35113194c5fd1bc9502b2b.ht...

"The purpose of thinning the shriveled grains of grapes is to make the grains of the ear tidy, the grains of the same size, and there are gaps between the grains, which is conducive to the development and expansion of the grains, the appearance is beautiful, and the commerciality is improved."

In Spanish, when we say "uvas" we may refer to both the actual "grains" and the the clusters. We may say, "es una uva gorda".

https://dle.rae.es/uva

1. f. Baya o grano más o menos redondo y jugoso, fruto de la vid, que forma racimos.

philgoddard Sep 14, 2022:

I assume "granos" means grapes but, if so, why have they said "uvas" in the same sentence? "Grains" doesn't make sense to me.
http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=gran...
Could "sueltos" refer to the spacing of the grapes in the cluster?