Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Do you, Henry Tudor, take Anne Boleyn to be your lawful wedded wife?

Latin translation:

Ubi tu Gaius, ego Gaia?

Added to glossary by Joseph Brazauskas
Oct 13, 2006 16:56
17 yrs ago
English term

Do you, Henry Tudor, take Anne Boleyn to be your lawful wedded wife?

English to Latin Art/Literary Religion San Marino law
This is for a period film being short in England on Tuesday 17th, to be spoken.
The production coordinator (my daughter) will pay direct, or to a charity if preferred. She - or possibly the actor - will telephone for guidance on pronunciation. I've tried unsuccessfully to post this as a job!
Proposed translations (Latin)
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During a Roman wedding, the bride and bridegroom were addressed, and the bride replied: 'Ubi tu Gaius, ego Gaia?', i.e., 'Where [art] thou, Gaius; I am [your] Gaia?'. This was the consummating formula, 'Gaius/Gaia', common praenomina, standing for any bride's and bridegroom's names.

I'm very uncertain that Henry VIII would have used the traditional Catholic formula, whatever that is or, if he did use it, would have used it in Latin.

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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-10-14 08:40:01 GMT)
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From 1528, when Anne took up residence at the Court, she exhibited a deep interest in religious reforms, and it is believed that she had a considerable impact on Henry in this regard. This increased, and contemporary accounts indicate fierce battles between the two in open Court. He had long since since ceased to be the 'Defensor Fidei' whom the Pope so highly commended. They were married in January 1533, sometime around St. Paul's day, Anne having become pregnant in the preceding December, and with Henry still formally married to Catherine of Aragon. Under such circumstances, he could hardly have employed the normal Catholic ceremony, especially since Archbishop Cramer did not officially--and even then without Papal approval--dissolve Henry and Catherine's marriage until May 23.
Note from asker:
I'm not so sure that he - or rather the priest officiating - wouldn't have used the Catholic wording. After all, Henry VIII was born and brought up a Catholic and it was only in marrying Anne Boleyn that he broke away from the papal authority.
Peer comment(s):

agree Vicky Papaprodromou
9 mins
Thanks, Vicky!
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "The problem is not really solved, but thank you for contributing this interesting historical information - a straight Latin rendering has been suggested by a monk here in England ... whether a glossy period film can bother to be historically accurate is another matter! "
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