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Cetacea 
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| What lawsuit? | Jan 9, 2015 |
Alex Lago wrote:
The OneDrive license literally reads as follows:
"When you transmit or upload Content to the Services, you're giving Microsoft the worldwide right to use Content as necessary."
Michael Beijer wrote:
They would never do anything that could result in a lawsuit.
When you've given someone the right to "use content as necessary", you can't sue them if they do just that.
You seriously believe that all they will ever do with data is "shuffle it around to improve the service"? You know, they didn't get to where they are by polishing their halo...
| | | | Michael Beijer
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TOPIC STARTER | Being careful is one thing, being paranoid quite another. | Jan 9, 2015 |
Cetacea wrote: Alex Lago wrote:
The OneDrive license literally reads as follows:
"When you transmit or upload Content to the Services, you're giving Microsoft the worldwide right to use Content as necessary."
Michael Beijer wrote:
They would never do anything that could result in a lawsuit. When you've given someone the right to "use content as necessary", you can't sue them if they do just that. You seriously believe that all they will ever do with data is "shuffle it around to improve the service"? You know, they didn't get to where they are by polishing their halo...
Do you honestly believe that Microsoft is going to take a document stored in my OneDrive and … and what? Sell it to someone? For example, figure out who the parties are in a contract I am translating, and then see if they can sell it to one of them? You can't be serious!
I'm afraid I don't translate anything that would be of much value. I don't often do documents with amazing trade secrets. 99% of it is just bumf. If it's really, really confidential, I lock it up behind a password, but deciding to forgo any form of email or cloud storage is just nonsense. What's next, pull out my ethernet cable?
Being careful is one thing, being paranoid quite another.
[Edited at 2015-01-09 17:08 GMT]
| | | | Alex Lago
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| | Just to be on the safer side, look for a server location in Europe | Jan 12, 2015 |
Data privacy regulations here (and especially in Germany, so I read) are much more restrictive than in the US/Canada.
With a server located in the US your data is not supposed to be safe.
Mainly due to customers' security concerns, Amazon has recently moved its server from Ireland to Frankfurt. VMware will soon open a location for its cloud platform in Germany, and Salesforce and Oracle have announced German locations as well.
Of course, it's not easy t... See more Data privacy regulations here (and especially in Germany, so I read) are much more restrictive than in the US/Canada.
With a server located in the US your data is not supposed to be safe.
Mainly due to customers' security concerns, Amazon has recently moved its server from Ireland to Frankfurt. VMware will soon open a location for its cloud platform in Germany, and Salesforce and Oracle have announced German locations as well.
Of course, it's not easy to know where the server of a cloud is located, but if you don't find anything, you may be sure it's not in Europe, at least. ▲ Collapse
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Tom in London
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Once you've agreed to the terms and conditions they can do whatever they want with your data.
They can use one server in one place or many servers in many different places. You'll never know. They themselves may not know.
[Edited at 2015-01-12 09:53 GMT]
| | | | Michael Beijer
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TOPIC STARTER | Then what, stop using ALL American software? :-) | Jan 12, 2015 |
Although I agree that the US should probably not be allowed to snoop around in anyone's data (although if they manage to stop a major terrorist attack, would you still not want them doing so?), on a practical level, this is all pretty much irrelevant.
If the US government goes looking through the word's data in search of terrorist stuff, this will have absolutely no effect on the documents of our clients. Sure, strictly speaking, NDAs etc. may be breached, but … what are t... See more Although I agree that the US should probably not be allowed to snoop around in anyone's data (although if they manage to stop a major terrorist attack, would you still not want them doing so?), on a practical level, this is all pretty much irrelevant.
If the US government goes looking through the word's data in search of terrorist stuff, this will have absolutely no effect on the documents of our clients. Sure, strictly speaking, NDAs etc. may be breached, but … what are the chances either you or your client will ever finding out?
And assuming you're right, and that we should never use any cloud service with servers located in the US. What then: are you also planning to stop using Gmail, Google, Yahoo, … and all Windows, and Apple software? This is of course ludicrous. Are we supposed to start using only German software, because we read somewhere on a blog that regulations in Germany are much more restrictive?
Feel free to start using a GMX.net email address (http://www.gmx.net/produkte/ ), SoftMaker (a German Office clone), and of course a German Linux distro; I'm going to continue using my Google Apps email account and OneDrive ▲ Collapse
| | | | | No need to get ironical | Jan 12, 2015 |
Michael Beijer wrote: If the US government goes looking through the word's data in search of terrorist stuff, this will have absolutely no effect on the documents of our clients. Sure, strictly speaking, NDAs etc. may be breached, but … what are the chances either you or your client will ever finding out? And assuming you're right, and that we should never use any cloud service with servers located in the US. What then: are you also planning to stop using Gmail, Google, Yahoo, … and all Windows, and Apple software? This is of course ludicrous. Are we supposed to start using only German software, because we read somewhere on a blog that regulations in Germany are much more restrictive? Feel free to start using a GMX.net email address ( http://www.gmx.net/produkte/ ), SoftMaker (a German Office clone), and of course a German Linux distro; I'm going to continue using my Google Apps email account and OneDrive
Of course, there is no guarantee that our data is completely safe in any place of the world. But I would a priori not be very confident in US privacy regulations. What makes you think that my assertion is due to what I read "somewhere in a blog"? This is a well known problem as far as data storage is concerned.
And BTW, I have already stopped using Gmail (never used Yahoo) and am trying to limit the use of Google (which is more difficult, I admit). You won't believe it, but I would be happy to get rid of Microsoft's Windows and all its software as well altogether.
But this is just me. You may of course continue to use all your apps and tools to your utmost satisfaction.
| | | | Michael Beijer
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TOPIC STARTER | UPDATE!!! (Goodbye OneDrive! I'm going back to Dropbox) | Jan 19, 2015 |
I can’t believe how much time I just wasted. Starting the long trek back to Dropbox now. Ugh. I can’t believe I was so stupid as to miss that OneDrive has:
(1) No differential sync (change one byte in a 500 MB file and it has to re-upload the entire thing!) +
(2) No revision history for non-Office files... See more I can’t believe how much time I just wasted. Starting the long trek back to Dropbox now. Ugh. I can’t believe I was so stupid as to miss that OneDrive has:
(1) No differential sync (change one byte in a 500 MB file and it has to re-upload the entire thing!) +
(2) No revision history for non-Office files!!!"
Info: http://skatter.com/2014/08/onedrive-needs-these-4-features/
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Tom in London
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| Controlled by Microsoft | Jan 19, 2015 |
Michael Beijer wrote: I can’t believe how much time I just wasted. Starting the long trek back to Dropbox now. Ugh. I can’t believe I was so stupid as to miss that OneDrive has: (1) No differential sync (change one byte in a 500 MB file and it has to re-upload the entire thing!) + (2) No revision history for non-Office files!!!" Info: http://skatter.com/2014/08/onedrive-needs-these-4-features/[Edited at 2015-01-19 17:53 GMT]
Yes- it's controlled by Microsoft, so I guess only the worst was to be expected. I feel sorry for the people who may be ensnared by their "friendly" introductory offer.
| | | | Michael Beijer
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TOPIC STARTER | Spoken like a true… | Jan 19, 2015 |
Controlled by Microsoft Tom in London wrote: Michael Beijer wrote: I can’t believe how much time I just wasted. Starting the long trek back to Dropbox now. Ugh. I can’t believe I was so stupid as to miss that OneDrive has: (1) No differential sync (change one byte in a 500 MB file and it has to re-upload the entire thing!) + (2) No revision history for non-Office files!!!" Info: http://skatter.com/2014/08/onedrive-needs-these-4-features/[Edited at 2015-01-19 17:53 GMT] Yes- it's controlled by Microsoft, so I guess only the worst was to be expected. I feel sorry for the people who may be ensnared by their "friendly" introductory offer.
| | | | Rolf Keller
Germany
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English to German
| Improve a service? Hm. | Jan 20, 2015 |
Michael Beijer wrote:
All it means is they can shuffle your stuff around to improve the service.
THE service (i. e. the pure cloud storage service) or one or the other of their services? E. g. their translation services?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_machine_translation
BTW, the founder of Linguee is a former Google employee ... honi soit qui mal y pense.
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