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Where is the original Declaration of Independence kept? Jul 5, 2014

David,

Are you sure about that? That was not my impression.

I did a search, and got a different answer.

http://www.wired.com/2009/07/dayintech_0704/
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David,

Are you sure about that? That was not my impression.

I did a search, and got a different answer.

http://www.wired.com/2009/07/dayintech_0704/

http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/declaration-of-independence-locations.html



The Declaration of Independence has been stored in many places over the years. For its first few years of existence, it was quickly gathered up by the Continental Congress as they fled from town to town to escape the British army. The Declaration probably received some pretty rough treatment in those days. In later years it was stored in the offices of different government agencies. Today the original of this important document is held by the National Archives in Washington D.C.

• Philadelphia: August-December 1776
• Baltimore: December 1776-March 1777
• Philadelphia: March-September 1777
• Lancaster, PA: September 27, 1777
• York, PA: September 30, 1777-June 1778
• Philadelphia: July 1778-June 1783
• Princeton, NJ: June-November 1783
• Annapolis, MD: November 1783-October 1784
• Trenton, NJ: November-December 1784
• New York: 1785-1790
• Philadelphia: 1790-1800
• Washington, DC (three locations): 1800-1814
• Leesburg, VA: August-September 1814
• Washington, DC (three locations): 1814-1841
• Washington, DC (Patent Office Building): 1841-1876
• Philadelphia: May-November 1876
• Washington, DC (State, War, and Navy Building): 1877-1921
• Washington, DC (Library of Congress): 1921-1941
• Fort Knox*: 1941-1944
• Washington, DC (Library of Congress): 1944-1952
• Washington, DC (National Archives): 1952-present

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QHE
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“The Engrossed Declaration on Parchment” vs. "The Dunlap Broadside" Jul 6, 2014

The Declaration of Independence: A History
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_history.html



The Committee of Five

Jefferson's account reflects three stages in the life of the Declaration: the document originally written by Jefferson; the changes to that document made by Franklin and Adams, resulting in the version that was submitted by the Committee of Five to the Congress; and the version that was eventually adopted.

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Although Congress had adopted the Declaration submitted by the Committee of Five, the committee's task was not yet completed. Congress had also directed that the committee supervise the printing of the adopted document. The first printed copies of the Declaration of Independence were turned out from the shop of John Dunlap, official printer to the Congress. After the Declaration had been adopted, the committee took to Dunlap the manuscript document, possibly Jefferson's "fair copy" of his rough draft. On the morning of July 5, copies were dispatched by members of Congress to various assemblies, conventions, and committees of safety as well as to the commanders of Continental troops. Also on July 5, a copy of the printed version of the approved Declaration was inserted into the "rough journal" of the Continental Congress for July 4. The text was followed by the words "Signed by Order and in Behalf of the Congress, John Hancock, President. Attest. Charles Thomson, Secretary." It is not known how many copies John Dunlap printed on his busy night of July 4. There are 26 copies known to exist of what is commonly referred to as "the Dunlap broadside," 21 owned by American institutions, 2 by British institutions, and 3 by private owners.


The Engrossed Declaration

On July 9 the action of Congress was officially approved by the New York Convention. All 13 colonies had now signified their approval. On July 19, therefore, Congress was able to order that the Declaration be "fairly engrossed on parchment, with the title and stile [sic] of 'The unanimous declaration of the thirteen United States of America,' and that the same, when engrossed, be signed by every member of Congress."

Engrossing is the process of preparing an official document in a large, clear hand. Timothy Matlack was probably the engrosser of the Declaration. He was a Pennsylvanian who had assisted the Secretary of the Congress, Charles Thomson, in his duties for over a year and who had written out George Washington's commission as commanding general of the ContinentalArmy. Matlack set to work with pen, ink, parchment, and practiced hand, and finally, on August 2, the journal of the Continental Congress records that "The declaration of independence being engrossed and compared at the table was signed." One of the most widely held misconceptions about the Declaration is that it was signed on July 4, 1776, by all the delegates in attendance.

John Hancock, the President of the Congress, was the first to sign the sheet of parchment measuring 24¼ by 29¾ inches. He used a bold signature centered below the text. In accordance with prevailing custom, the other delegates began to sign at the right below the text, their signatures arranged according to the geographic location of the states they represented.


Parchment and Ink

Over the next 200 years, the nation whose birth was announced with a Declaration "fairly engrossed on parchment" was to show immense growth in area, population, economic power, and social complexity and a lasting commitment to a testing and strengthening of its democracy. But what of the parchment itself? How was it to fare over the course of two centuries?

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wherestip wrote:

http://www.wired.com/2009/07/dayintech_0704/

http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/declaration-of-independence-locations.html

The Declaration of Independence has been stored in many places over the years.

• Philadelphia: August-December 1776
• Baltimore: December 1776-March 1777
• Philadelphia: March-September 1777
• Lancaster, PA: September 27, 1777
• York, PA: September 30, 1777-June 1778
• Philadelphia: July 1778-June 1783
• Princeton, NJ: June-November 1783
• Annapolis, MD: November 1783-October 1784
• Trenton, NJ: November-December 1784
• New York: 1785-1790
• Philadelphia: 1790-1800
• Washington, DC (three locations): 1800-1814
• Leesburg, VA: August-September 1814
• Washington, DC (three locations): 1814-1841
• Washington, DC (Patent Office Building): 1841-1876
• Philadelphia: May-November 1876
• Washington, DC (State, War, and Navy Building): 1877-1921
• Washington, DC (Library of Congress): 1921-1941
• Fort Knox*: 1941-1944
• Washington, DC (Library of Congress): 1944-1952
• Washington, DC (National Archives): 1952-present



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wherestip
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Very educational Jul 6, 2014

Thanks, QHE. I hate to use a cliche here; but in this case it indeed is "you learn something new every day". I really enjoyed reading through the whole article, and then some... ... See more
Thanks, QHE. I hate to use a cliche here; but in this case it indeed is "you learn something new every day". I really enjoyed reading through the whole article, and then some...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_history_of_the_United_States_Declaration_of_Independence


I went back and looked at the copy referenced in David's link; it was a copy used in the House of Lords' debate on 1/20/1778. It seems to be a handwritten copy, not even one of the Dunlap broadsides, which was printed.



At this time the opposition demanded an enquiry into the state of the nation and called for papers, to reveal, amongst other things, the ineffectiveness of the Prohibitory Act as a means of restoring America to the king's 'peace'. These papers, which were laid before the House of Lords on 20 Jan 1778, included this copy of the American Declaration of Independence. The motion for an enquiry was defeated on 2 February. The war was formally ended by the Treaty of Paris, which was signed on 3 September 1783.



It's definitely history though. On page one, there is an official archival stamp of the House of Lords.


[Edited at 2014-07-06 15:52 GMT]
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QHE
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Same here Jul 6, 2014

是啊,Steve, 我是从你和 David 的链接开始“追踪”到这段历史详情的; 确实受益匪浅。

谢谢你们!


[Edited at 2014-07-06 13:28 GMT]


 
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early US-UK history Jul 7, 2014

Hi Steve,

Glad you saw the accuracy now. I don't know whether I mentioned it before. I usually verified with up to three sources (or as many as I possibly can go through with the time available) for whatever I posted in the forum to ensure accuracy. In addition, I have a good friend working in the Parliament office here in London, not to mention I interpreted government matters for visiting groups, hence I was quite sure there was no mistake for this post.

Q's additi
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Hi Steve,

Glad you saw the accuracy now. I don't know whether I mentioned it before. I usually verified with up to three sources (or as many as I possibly can go through with the time available) for whatever I posted in the forum to ensure accuracy. In addition, I have a good friend working in the Parliament office here in London, not to mention I interpreted government matters for visiting groups, hence I was quite sure there was no mistake for this post.

Q's additional papers are of course very helpful to support this historical fact of the early US-UK relationship. Thanks Q for the informative quotes.

wherestip wrote:

I went back and looked at the copy referenced in David's link; it was a copy used in the House of Lords' debate on 1/20/1778. It seems to be a handwritten copy, not even one of the Dunlap broadsides, which was printed.



At this time the opposition demanded an enquiry into the state of the nation and called for papers, to reveal, amongst other things, the ineffectiveness of the Prohibitory Act as a means of restoring America to the king's 'peace'. These papers, which were laid before the House of Lords on 20 Jan 1778, included this copy of the American Declaration of Independence. The motion for an enquiry was defeated on 2 February. The war was formally ended by the Treaty of Paris, which was signed on 3 September 1783.



It's definitely history though. On page one, there is an official archival stamp of the House of Lords.


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Kiss Of Fire/El Choclo Jul 17, 2014



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Island In The Sun Jul 19, 2014



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E41LNLlC5g0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Gbk4i41_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2DjyPoyCcE

This is my island in the sun
Where my people have toiled since time begun
I may sail on many a sea
Her shores will always be home to me

(chorus)
O island in the sun
Willed to me by my Father's hand
All my days, I will sing in praise
Of your forests, waters, your shining sand

As morning breaks the Heaven on high
I lift my heavy load to the sky
Sun comes down with a burning glow
Mingles my sweat with the earth below
(repeat chorus)

I see woman on bended knee
cutting cane for her family
I see man at the water side
Casting nets at the surging tide
(repeat chorus)

I hope the day will never come
When I can't awake to the sound of drum
Never let me Miss Carnival
With calypso song philosophical
(repeat chorus)

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Under The Sea Jul 20, 2014



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I don't wanna talk about it Jul 26, 2014



I can tell by your eyes that you've prob'bly been cryin' forever,
and the stars in the sky don't mean nothin' to you, they're a mirror.
I don't want to talk about it, how you broke my heart.
If I stay here just a little bit longer,
If I stay here, won't you listen to my heart, wh
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I can tell by your eyes that you've prob'bly been cryin' forever,
and the stars in the sky don't mean nothin' to you, they're a mirror.
I don't want to talk about it, how you broke my heart.
If I stay here just a little bit longer,
If I stay here, won't you listen to my heart, whoa, heart?

If I stand all alone, will the shadow hide the color of my heart;
blue for the tears, black for the night's fears.
The star in the sky don't mean nothin' to you, they're a mirror.
I don't want to talk about it, how you broke my heart.
If I stay here just a little bit longer,
if I stay here, won't you listen to my heart, whoa, heart?
I don't want to talk about it, how you broke this ol' heart.

If I stay here just a little bit longer,
if I stay here, won't you listen to my heart, whoa, heart?
My heart, whoa, heart.

含淚眼腔無盡訴
繁星寄意意難傳
片鏡懸空影殘照
傷心事
休提
一刻暫留心曲聽
心曲難明蔽月天

孤影獨照藏心跡
淚掩明月落花時
寒星不察鏡空懸
傷心事
莫問
一刻暫留心曲聽
心曲難明蔽月天

一刻暫留心曲聽
心曲難明蔽月天

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXZLG4NmtxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTP9AJObSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azcy9_F0DCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RkWs6P2IwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owXb8Pqc0tE&list=RDowXb8Pqc0tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qejn5XRNnw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acvRPeAG9mo




[Edited at 2014-07-27 00:06 GMT]
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QHE
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Anyway Jul 27, 2014

Anyway - Martina McBride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_nYdfLFoI

Mon Dieu, tu es grand, tu es beau!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXomk_nNyrw


 
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山楂樹 Jul 29, 2014



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How Can I Tell Her Aug 2, 2014



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Kiss Me Goodbye Aug 3, 2014




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There Goes My Everything Aug 6, 2014



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PvupzOSfqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlG59gXcYA

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How Can You Mend A Broken Heart Aug 16, 2014



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9YIq0oNiSM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sN05AMV9gY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTQiT58AbE0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPuh7TdVQsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWtKm5WbE_w

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